Ladakh Flash Point

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Mohsin77

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Those people are like the top 0.1% of the human species in athletics, they would be strong and talented no matter what.

Those "0.1%" improved relative to their own performance after switching to plant based diets.

But good luck fielding hundreds of thousands of those humans as a backbone for your army.

Well, that's what the Gladiators were, plant based. And the Army they formed under Spartacus did pretty well. So yea, please, give me an army of Gladiators with rifles. Not only would they be total beasts on the battlefield, my bean+barley logistics would be so much better.

it just takes a lot more planning to find and create a vegan diet most people actually can follow.

Sounds like whining and lack of discipline to me. (Good luck with that army)

Indian vegan food is delicious and i prefer it over western european meat food.

I'm not a fan of Indian food. Their flavors are too weird for my Pakistani taste. But like I said, I'm not 100% vegan. 5 days a week on a vegan diet though is totally manageable. You should try it yourself for a few months. It does take a lot of planning to switch over, but it's worth it for the environment + fitness.
 
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AndrewS

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So you are telling me that India is not investing to its human capital?

Music to my ears. May the Great Modi rule India for another 20 years

It's reason to be more sad for the people of India than gleeful

Old post below on how Indian malnutrition has somehow gotten worse in the past 7 years or so

That's not entirely accurate.

Whilst the best Indians are the equal of anyone, there are so very few of them.

India's institutions, upbringing and education of children is awful.

For example in 2014, 38% of Indian children were physically stunted due to malnutrition, which retards healthy brain development and learning during lessons.

And in the 5 years from 2014-2019, malnutrition had somehow gotten worse despite moderate economic growth in India.
That is how much the Indian *elite* cares about its less fortunate citizens.

Plus since 2020, poverty has skyrocketed in India due to the pandemic.
I reckon India has lost at a minimum of 5 years of development so far.

But back to your point of the USA importing large numbers of Indians.
There are only 18 million Indians who live on more than $600 per month, which I reckon is indicative of a white-collar job or university education.
And those *elite* Indians will import the same mindset they grew up with in India

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Overbom

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It's reason to be more sad for the people of India than gleeful
I am sad for the people of India

I am gleeful for the dimming prospects of the Jai Hinds becoming strong and attacking China

Old post below on how Indian malnutrition has somehow gotten worse in the past 7 years or so
Yeah, this shows that India hasn't thought long term (democracy amiright?) about the consequences of underinvesting on the meeting the nutritional needs of its people


IMO India should try to settle the border dispute with China while it has time. Because with each year not resolving the border issues, China is becoming stronger.

What should worry India, is that Chinese leaders might have already decided on how they see India role on the region. If they have decided it is hostile (very likely) for China, then China will bleed it dry
 

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Genetics play an important part in our physical well being and performance.
Not a ridiculous post.

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War against diabetes: Why Indians are at risk and what they need to know

It is well known in Singapore, our fellow Indians are more prone to diabetes.
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I was looking for the reasons why the Indians were easily CLOBBERED by the Chinese at Galwan,
the answer could be in the Genetics.
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06 September 2000

The paradox of low body mass index and high body fat percentage among Chinese, Malays and Indians in Singapore

RESULTS: Compared with body fat percentage (BF%) obtained using the reference method, BF% for the Singaporean Chinese, Malays and Indians were under-predicted by BMI, sex and age when an equation developed in a Caucasian population was used. The mean prediction error ranged from 2.7% to 5.6% body fat. The BMI/BF% relationship was also different among the three Singaporean groups, with Indians having the highest BF% and Chinese the lowest for the same BMI.

RESULTS:
The BMI/BF% relationship was also different among the three Singaporean groups, with Indians having the highest BF% and Chinese the lowest for the same BMI.

HOW TO WIN HAND TO HAND COMBAT, at Galwan,
when Indians are MOSTLY BODY FAT and NO MUSCLES
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As expected, it would devolve. Please cool it on the large and bolded font - unlike where you might’ve come from most here are literate. The conclusions you’ve drawn mean nothing. the objectives fighting in and around Ladakh arent going to be determined by body fat %. If anything the higher altitudes and resultant lower temperatures might actually make it beneficial. Not that it helped them last year.
 

badoc

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As expected, it would devolve. Please cool it on the large and bolded font - unlike where you might’ve come from most here are literate. The conclusions you’ve drawn mean nothing. the objectives fighting in and around Ladakh arent going to be determined by body fat %. If anything the higher altitudes and resultant lower temperatures might actually make it beneficial. Not that it helped them last year.
It would help if you had read carefully my earlier posts before you comment.
Indians having higher body fat being beneficial in cold temperatures was what I was alluding to in response to the post that claims the " "tough" Indians were sleeping on the snow.
But it is to their detriment in hand to hand combat, and I believe that is why the Indians were clobbered by the Chinese in Galwan.
In fact the Indians are DISMAL in everything that requires physical strength as their performance in the Olympics would suggest.

I would be grateful if you will reserve your criticisms to yourself on my writing style I use for emphasis and easier reading for old folks, as long as I am not posting in ALL CAPS.

My apologies if my posts offend you because you are Indian?
You can refute my contention of the facts that are supported by the links I provided, and not indulge in personal attacks.
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discspinner

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Not sure if this was discussed on this thread before. Is this a verified photo? I looked at some of the originals posted and it does appear to contain this. Wouldn't this be HIGHLY provocative to release an image containing the image of what could be Col Babu or some other Indian KIA (body covered with blanket in background)?
 

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Not sure if this was discussed on this thread before. Is this a verified photo? I looked at some of the originals posted and it does appear to contain this. Wouldn't this be HIGHLY provocative to release an image containing the image of what could be Col Babu or some other Indian KIA (body covered with blanket in background)?

Guy isn’t dead. If he were then they’d cover his head with a tarp.
 

discspinner

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Fair enough, and what is this? Just some Indian who was knocked out having a nap? Looks like 1, 2, 3 to me...also why would the Chinese soldiers be making the Indians do something so humiliating? Unless it was in the context of capturing them in a highly tense situation?
 

ironborn

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Fair enough, and what is this? Just some Indian who was knocked out having a nap? Looks like 1, 2, 3 to me...also why would the Chinese soldiers be making the Indians do something so humiliating? Unless it was in the context of capturing them in a highly tense situation?
Have you seen the video Indian released that a group of them beating up an single unarmed PLA office sent as a negotiator? And how Indians' reactions to it?
If you have, then you will know the answer why.
 
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