Ladakh Flash Point


badoc

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As expected, it would devolve. Please cool it on the large and bolded font - unlike where you might’ve come from most here are literate. The conclusions you’ve drawn mean nothing. the objectives fighting in and around Ladakh arent going to be determined by body fat %. If anything the higher altitudes and resultant lower temperatures might actually make it beneficial. Not that it helped them last year.
It would help if you had read carefully my earlier posts before you comment.
Indians having higher body fat being beneficial in cold temperatures was what I was alluding to in response to the post that claims the " "tough" Indians were sleeping on the snow.
But it is to their detriment in hand to hand combat, and I believe that is why the Indians were clobbered by the Chinese in Galwan.
In fact the Indians are DISMAL in everything that requires physical strength as their performance in the Olympics would suggest.

I would be grateful if you will reserve your criticisms to yourself on my writing style I use for emphasis and easier reading for old folks, as long as I am not posting in ALL CAPS.

My apologies if my posts offend you because you are Indian?
You can refute my contention of the facts that are supported by the links I provided, and not indulge in personal attacks.
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discspinner

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Not sure if this was discussed on this thread before. Is this a verified photo? I looked at some of the originals posted and it does appear to contain this. Wouldn't this be HIGHLY provocative to release an image containing the image of what could be Col Babu or some other Indian KIA (body covered with blanket in background)?
 
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Not sure if this was discussed on this thread before. Is this a verified photo? I looked at some of the originals posted and it does appear to contain this. Wouldn't this be HIGHLY provocative to release an image containing the image of what could be Col Babu or some other Indian KIA (body covered with blanket in background)?

Guy isn’t dead. If he were then they’d cover his head with a tarp.
 

discspinner

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Fair enough, and what is this? Just some Indian who was knocked out having a nap? Looks like 1, 2, 3 to me...also why would the Chinese soldiers be making the Indians do something so humiliating? Unless it was in the context of capturing them in a highly tense situation?
 

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Fair enough, and what is this? Just some Indian who was knocked out having a nap? Looks like 1, 2, 3 to me...also why would the Chinese soldiers be making the Indians do something so humiliating? Unless it was in the context of capturing them in a highly tense situation?
Have you seen the video Indian released that a group of them beating up an single unarmed PLA office sent as a negotiator? And how Indians' reactions to it?
If you have, then you will know the answer why.
 

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Not sure if this was discussed on this thread before. Is this a verified photo? I looked at some of the originals posted and it does appear to contain this. Wouldn't this be HIGHLY provocative to release an image containing the image of what could be Col Babu or some other Indian KIA (body covered with blanket in background)?

Looks like gesture for submission prior to receiving medical attention and being taken as prisoner. Similar to raising your hand as sign of submission.
 

discspinner

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Looks like gesture for submission prior to receiving medical attention and being taken as prisoner. Similar to raising your hand as sign of submission.

Look folks, I am not trying to be provocative. These are twitter images that some in official Chinese media (like Shen Shiwei
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have retweeted. So nothing in these photos is anything that experts on either side have not already fully analyzed every pixel of. I am simply trying to ask what the bodies lying on the ground may be, and why China chose to release these images. Obviously, this photo cannot show whether the bodies are alive or dead, but my layman's eyes tells me those are unnatural positions for anybody who is still conscious. Also odd is why the PLA medic doesn't seem to be concerned about them. Just my 2 cents.
 

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"Fair enough, and what is this? Just some Indian who was knocked out having a nap? Looks like 1, 2, 3 to me...also why would the Chinese soldiers be making the Indians do something so humiliating? Unless it was in the context of capturing them in a highly tense situation?"

Apparently holding your ears and squatting is a traditional Indian punishment for misbehaving. I doubt Chinese frontline soldiers were aware of this and forced them to do this to humiliate them. Its probable that the Indian soldiers knew they were in troube and were fearful for their life so instictively reverted to childlike behaviour.

Even if they were instructed to do so, so what? What do you suggest they do? It was an active combat situation and these very soldiers had just murdered someone in cold blood.

Indians should be thankful that not many were killed and in fact many rescued. A lot of other countries, including America, would have continued mowing them down instead of pulling them out of rivers.

Look folks, I am not trying to be provocative. These are twitter images that some in official Chinese media (like Shen Shiwei
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have retweeted. So nothing in these photos is anything that experts on either side have not already fully analyzed every pixel of. I am simply trying to ask what the bodies lying on the ground may be, and why China chose to release these images. Obviously, this photo cannot show whether the bodies are alive or dead, but my layman's eyes tells me those are unnatural positions for anybody who is still conscious. Also odd is why the PLA medic doesn't seem to be concerned about them. Just my 2 cents.
Hopefully you aren't a doctor.
 
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lgnxz

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Wouldn't this be HIGHLY provocative to release an image containing the image of what could be Col Babu or some other Indian KIA (body covered with blanket in background)?
Your first assumption is thinking that the indians care about the death of their own people. Life is very cheap in india, just look at how they handle the pandemic and how in general their caste-based society exist and function in the year of 2021 lmao. Back in June last year as well, you would remember that most of the indian deaths that happened during the galwan clash also happened because of their own fault for routing in the dark and having such a trash logistics, no matter how many times indians here like @twineedle posting those paved roads it still won't change this fact because logistics is more, way more than just roads.

And finally, indian media, despite numerously claimed by the indians that they are all private independent news companies and less biased than the chinese state media, are in unison keeping these humiliating photos/videos away from their news site/tv channel. You won't find these evidences being posted by them, not even attempt at doing a damage control like how their stupid retired general has done by completely denying it. It's a complete media silent, zilch, not even a single mention.
 

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"The renovation of the memorial is not only a tribute to our valiant armed forces but also a symbol of the fact that we are fully prepared to protect the integrity of the nation," Mr Singh said.

"This monument symbolises the government's stand of giving a befitting reply to anyone who threatens our sovereignty and integrity. India is no longer a weak nation. It has become a powerful country," he said in a brief address in presence of Chief of Defence Staff Gen Bipin Rawat and several other top military officials.
More chest-thumping and political point-scoring by India's Defence Minister. Yeah, India is no longer weak. India has actually become weaker. Military strength is a relative term. Anyway how does a renovation of a 1962 war memorial make India a 'powerful country'?

Mr Singh also said he will continue to visit Rezang La to pay homage to the fallen soldiers till he remains the Defence Minister.

The battle of Rezang La is largely considered as the finest moment for the Indian Army during the 1962 war with China as over 100 Indian soldiers pushed back a large number of Chinese troops, displaying raw courage and indomitable spirit.
114 out of 120 Indian soldiers were killed in that battle. It was a major military defeat. India claims to have killed 1300 Chinese soldiers in that battle alone. That's far more than China's claims of 722 of its own soldiers killed in the entire war. But India also claims 1300 PLA deaths of the entire 1962 war. So Indian claims doesn't seem to add up at all. In any case, Indian credibility is extremely doubtful, so better to take their figures with fistful of salt.

The Defence Minister said India has never intended to occupy the land of any other country but it has given a befitting reply to anyone eyeing the country's territory and that Indian soldiers are capable of protecting every inch of the nation.
Really? Then get out of Aksai Chin, South Tibet, Bhutan, Kalapani, Susta, and Sikkim. India has no historical claims over these areas. India cannot protect and give any befitting reply to hold territory taken from others. India is sitting on hot coal, because eventually someone strong enough will return to take back its lands.

The Indian Army had occupied a number of mountain peaks in the Rezang La region in August last year following China's aggressive posturing and failed attempt to intimidate Indian troops.
Indian troops bravery in the face of Chinese intimidation is legendary. The Battle of Galwan is a shining example.;)
 

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