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Not sure if this was discussed on this thread before. Is this a verified photo? I looked at some of the originals posted and it does appear to contain this. Wouldn't this be HIGHLY provocative to release an image containing the image of what could be Col Babu or some other Indian KIA (body covered with blanket in background)?

Looks like gesture for submission prior to receiving medical attention and being taken as prisoner. Similar to raising your hand as sign of submission.
 

discspinner

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Looks like gesture for submission prior to receiving medical attention and being taken as prisoner. Similar to raising your hand as sign of submission.

Look folks, I am not trying to be provocative. These are twitter images that some in official Chinese media (like Shen Shiwei
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have retweeted. So nothing in these photos is anything that experts on either side have not already fully analyzed every pixel of. I am simply trying to ask what the bodies lying on the ground may be, and why China chose to release these images. Obviously, this photo cannot show whether the bodies are alive or dead, but my layman's eyes tells me those are unnatural positions for anybody who is still conscious. Also odd is why the PLA medic doesn't seem to be concerned about them. Just my 2 cents.
 

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"Fair enough, and what is this? Just some Indian who was knocked out having a nap? Looks like 1, 2, 3 to me...also why would the Chinese soldiers be making the Indians do something so humiliating? Unless it was in the context of capturing them in a highly tense situation?"

Apparently holding your ears and squatting is a traditional Indian punishment for misbehaving. I doubt Chinese frontline soldiers were aware of this and forced them to do this to humiliate them. Its probable that the Indian soldiers knew they were in troube and were fearful for their life so instictively reverted to childlike behaviour.

Even if they were instructed to do so, so what? What do you suggest they do? It was an active combat situation and these very soldiers had just murdered someone in cold blood.

Indians should be thankful that not many were killed and in fact many rescued. A lot of other countries, including America, would have continued mowing them down instead of pulling them out of rivers.

Look folks, I am not trying to be provocative. These are twitter images that some in official Chinese media (like Shen Shiwei
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have retweeted. So nothing in these photos is anything that experts on either side have not already fully analyzed every pixel of. I am simply trying to ask what the bodies lying on the ground may be, and why China chose to release these images. Obviously, this photo cannot show whether the bodies are alive or dead, but my layman's eyes tells me those are unnatural positions for anybody who is still conscious. Also odd is why the PLA medic doesn't seem to be concerned about them. Just my 2 cents.
Hopefully you aren't a doctor.
 
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lgnxz

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Wouldn't this be HIGHLY provocative to release an image containing the image of what could be Col Babu or some other Indian KIA (body covered with blanket in background)?
Your first assumption is thinking that the indians care about the death of their own people. Life is very cheap in india, just look at how they handle the pandemic and how in general their caste-based society exist and function in the year of 2021 lmao. Back in June last year as well, you would remember that most of the indian deaths that happened during the galwan clash also happened because of their own fault for routing in the dark and having such a trash logistics, no matter how many times indians here like @twineedle posting those paved roads it still won't change this fact because logistics is more, way more than just roads.

And finally, indian media, despite numerously claimed by the indians that they are all private independent news companies and less biased than the chinese state media, are in unison keeping these humiliating photos/videos away from their news site/tv channel. You won't find these evidences being posted by them, not even attempt at doing a damage control like how their stupid retired general has done by completely denying it. It's a complete media silent, zilch, not even a single mention.
 

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"The renovation of the memorial is not only a tribute to our valiant armed forces but also a symbol of the fact that we are fully prepared to protect the integrity of the nation," Mr Singh said.

"This monument symbolises the government's stand of giving a befitting reply to anyone who threatens our sovereignty and integrity. India is no longer a weak nation. It has become a powerful country," he said in a brief address in presence of Chief of Defence Staff Gen Bipin Rawat and several other top military officials.
More chest-thumping and political point-scoring by India's Defence Minister. Yeah, India is no longer weak. India has actually become weaker. Military strength is a relative term. Anyway how does a renovation of a 1962 war memorial make India a 'powerful country'?

Mr Singh also said he will continue to visit Rezang La to pay homage to the fallen soldiers till he remains the Defence Minister.

The battle of Rezang La is largely considered as the finest moment for the Indian Army during the 1962 war with China as over 100 Indian soldiers pushed back a large number of Chinese troops, displaying raw courage and indomitable spirit.
114 out of 120 Indian soldiers were killed in that battle. It was a major military defeat. India claims to have killed 1300 Chinese soldiers in that battle alone. That's far more than China's claims of 722 of its own soldiers killed in the entire war. But India also claims 1300 PLA deaths of the entire 1962 war. So Indian claims doesn't seem to add up at all. In any case, Indian credibility is extremely doubtful, so better to take their figures with fistful of salt.

The Defence Minister said India has never intended to occupy the land of any other country but it has given a befitting reply to anyone eyeing the country's territory and that Indian soldiers are capable of protecting every inch of the nation.
Really? Then get out of Aksai Chin, South Tibet, Bhutan, Kalapani, Susta, and Sikkim. India has no historical claims over these areas. India cannot protect and give any befitting reply to hold territory taken from others. India is sitting on hot coal, because eventually someone strong enough will return to take back its lands.

The Indian Army had occupied a number of mountain peaks in the Rezang La region in August last year following China's aggressive posturing and failed attempt to intimidate Indian troops.
Indian troops bravery in the face of Chinese intimidation is legendary. The Battle of Galwan is a shining example.;)
 

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Genetics play an important part in our physical well being and performance.
Not a ridiculous post.

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War against diabetes: Why Indians are at risk and what they need to know

It is well known in Singapore, our fellow Indians are more prone to diabetes.
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I was looking for the reasons why the Indians were easily CLOBBERED by the Chinese at Galwan,
the answer could be in the Genetics.
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06 September 2000

The paradox of low body mass index and high body fat percentage among Chinese, Malays and Indians in Singapore

RESULTS: Compared with body fat percentage (BF%) obtained using the reference method, BF% for the Singaporean Chinese, Malays and Indians were under-predicted by BMI, sex and age when an equation developed in a Caucasian population was used. The mean prediction error ranged from 2.7% to 5.6% body fat. The BMI/BF% relationship was also different among the three Singaporean groups, with Indians having the highest BF% and Chinese the lowest for the same BMI.

RESULTS:
The BMI/BF% relationship was also different among the three Singaporean groups, with Indians having the highest BF% and Chinese the lowest for the same BMI.

HOW TO WIN HAND TO HAND COMBAT, at Galwan,
when Indians are MOSTLY BODY FAT and NO MUSCLES
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From what I understand, IA was outmaneuvered (flanked by late-coming PLA reinforcements), their CO + some other soldiers were killed at some point during the fight (although not sure whether it was before/after reinforcements arrived), and they panicked and fled. Some of them were chased down and additionally beaten to death, but the majority of IA deaths were caused by their soldiers going for a drink in the freezing river during the fleeing stage. In my opinion the PLA victory was primarily due to tactical reasons, and not because their individual soldiers were physically inferior on average (even though that might be true too).
 

coolieno99

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Lets wait for more info on what actually happened.
Indians being Muscularly Weak is a Fact.

Indians are good at Jaw Jaw matches, SISSY PUSH PUSH games and ambush unarmed single adversaries.
They turn tail in all fights as evidenced by available pictures and videos except when they vastly outnumber unarmed adversaries.

One day I may be tempted to post a video of how a 38 year old body building, tall and big sized Indian thinking he can beat the daylights out of a 60+ years old man with serious arthritis, thats me, turn tail within seconds of drubbing.
The court found me guilty because he stopped fighting and was running away and so he is the victim and I who had problem walking and move around with a crutch and travel on a wheelchair is the aggressor.
The Police said I must stop when the Indian ran away even though he started the altercation.

The Indian must not have checked his muscles have high % of fat like marbled beef.

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The last Asian Games was held in 2018.
India was battling Chinese Taipei (Taiwan) for 7th and 8th places in the medals standing.
It was close, and little Taiwan edge out big India in the end.

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