Ladakh Flash Point

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Mohsin77

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And? Fox 3 gets dodged because....

Why don't you post your original comment in full, and the replies to it? Go and find it. Post them here. We can restart that if you want. It would be fun, and actually relevant to the subject of the thread.

I'm curious, are you being offended because I'm saying that Hinduism, like Islam, is orthopraxic?
You are pretending to be a subject matter expert on Islam, by making statements in the form of "Islam is XYZ." I can see how superficial your understanding of the subject is (like most other subjects you try to lecture people on) from your existing comments on Islam, which also have no relevance to this thread. You are simply trolling, again.

That said, if you actually want to discuss it, we can do so in PMs. I do have a copy of the Holy Qur'an and if you want to argue that Islam is more orthodoxic than orthopraxic, please do so here.
I have attempted discussion with you in the past, until I learned that you don't actually want to discuss anything. You are a troll. And I do not feed the ego of trolls by falling for their pretense of 'discussion,' especially when it is irrelevant to the thread's topic.
 

Nobaron

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Please don't confuse the Chinese here with facts. They like to crash and kill their fighter plane pilots by colliding with slow moving american electronic signatures gathering planes . Because the pla has only perfect communist citizens and can do no wrong. Though i didn't know calling Chinese communist was not liked by them.
Surely not. We wouldn't dare to separate facts from indians. You like to crash & kill your fighter pilots by yourself. Quite intense training you do i would say, We all know, British colony india which was broken thousand kingdoms before has finally been beaten into one massive crap by your former brit lord. Though i dont know if you would like me calling you broken thousand kingdoms or ex-brit colony. After all you are torch light of dramacracy now :cool:
 

ougoah

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Here is an Indian news graphic showing Chinese air threat to India
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Only the border ones should be of concern to India. None of the majority in this visual is of concern to India. Such airfields are only useful for defending airspace from IAF ingress. Border ones can be used to pivot and support PLA forwards beyond mutually agreed borders and even disputed ones. It is the assumption that India would only be concerned of a PLA ingress and not a defence of dispute? I mean that should be the case since both should and do at least recognise there is a dispute right? So it is puzzling where the concern for airfields so far inland, a flanker would have trouble performing tasks at those ranges.

It is suggesting that China has no right to defend its position and its claims with the implication being India therefore does. Okay enough with that clear bias and I'm indeed just bitching about that unimportant and frankly unsurprising bit of bias.

PLAAF is still outnumbered in such an engagement and if anything the visual just shows (what we already know) that PLAAF airfields available in case of a real conflict, are all well within reach of even Indian limited artillery and certainly well within ballistic and cruise missile strikes or airstrikes. Even if PLAAF and IAF all have their airfields intact, the engagement does not favour PLAAF. There is barely anything being done by China to address this apart from some lengthening of airfields and placing a few more fighters there but no modern fighters in any decent number. Should show how sure Chinese leaders are that this conflict is under control.
 

Nobaron

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Reminds me of a certain incident with ethnic Tibetan Special Forces and old Indian mine fields.
Wow i totally forgot that one. That poor tibetan special force, went up on mine he supposed to use for freedom. That's one special way to go up. We can tell with certainty he is never gonna use made in india mines again.
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May his soul, or whatever left of it, rest in pieces.
 

ougoah

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I think the Yunnan could host more Airfields. Northeastern India seems like it's vulnerable from the air.

I suspect CCP leaders and military decision makers have concluded one of the following:

1. Very little to no chance of war possibly with quiet Indian verification of this.
2. There is a great or decent chance of war

1. is ideal and means some people can talk all they want about it and make up as much nonsense as they please. Things carry on as they are.

2. means their planning involves almost entirely relying on land forces with a very limited PLAAF support and limited PLAAF capability being offered to this theatre presumably because it is much more important to keep high end assets positioned in the east where the real capability is and is coming from in terms of presenting as a threat to China. This would also mean that the PLA leaders think such a war is winnable with just cyberwarfare + electronic warfare + strategic missiles + artillery^artillery spamming and then land forces. This means sacrificing more lives to preserve equipment and technology for higher end threats. The Indians may want to cooperate with the US in some two front attack so this line of preparation is more sensible than diverting assets west. Plus India is SRBM and MRBM ranged rather than US and US bases in Asia which are either IRBM or ICBM ranged. They luckily don't overlap and so we see this force structure and deployment pattern.

If one goes nuclear, all go nuclear, if one gets pushed to only have nuclear option, that's the end. China is dealing with the absolute devil in disguise with the US. There is no telling how the US will play this struggle out and what level of depravity it will consider and act upon. Chinese unfortunately are often too naive about the world and the always assume the best of the other but get shocked at how depraved they are. They never expected the information warfare to be this intense, or the trade and and economic warfare. Why expect the US to not use every miltiary means? At the moment the US is still unsure about certain victory and is therefore passive in acting but it has never erred when it comes to a lower competitor before. I'm of course referring to the powers that control American policy and not the American people btw. I can imagine China being thoroughly unprepared for this because Chinese leaders can be too naive.
 
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ougoah

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Wow i totally forgot that one. That poor tibetan special force, went up on mine he supposed to use for freedom. That's one special way to go up. We can tell with certainty he is never gonna use made in india mines again.
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May his soul, or whatever left of it, rest in pieces.

That's rude and nasty my friend. No soul deserves that sort of condemnation from us particularly when they feel they were doing right by their beliefs which unfortunately do not align with others. It is simply unnecessary to speak this way even if you personally feel that. I recall Indians celebrating the Pakistani airliner disaster and the flooding recently in China. This isn't the appropriate way to behave even if some of them do that.
 

twineedle

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Wow i totally forgot that one. That poor tibetan special force, went up on mine he supposed to use for freedom. That's one special way to go up. We can tell with certainty he is never gonna use made in india mines again.
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May his soul, or whatever left of it, rest in pieces.
The mine was left over from 62. It is important to remember that since 62, the area between Chushul and Kailash range was an effective buffer zone. Hence there were no disputes or issues there until 2020, despite China claiming the LAC runs west of the Colombo line in South Pangong.
 
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Nobaron

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That's rude and nasty my friend. No soul deserves that sort of condemnation from us particularly when they feel they were doing right by their beliefs which unfortunately do not align with others. It is simply unnecessary to speak this way even if you personally feel that. I recall Indians celebrating the Pakistani airliner disaster and the flooding recently in China. This isn't the appropriate way to behave even if some of them do that.

Sorry, i was going to write peace, i have written that phrase so much now that's how it has been saved in my mobile dictionary. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Rest of it though i meant every word. Trust me, thats how these things deserve to be treated. We have dealt with them, we know
 
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