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zgx09t

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That is all good except that they wasted 2 month bad mouthing China bordering on racism It is a case of seeing Rome is burning while Nero fiddling

Don't get me wrong.
You just need to see what the real issue is.

Fighting or helping someone fight the current virus outbreak is in China's own interest, or for that matter everybody else's interest.
Virus doesn't have borders or needs passports or chooses nationalities.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Quite true. But the American smear campaign against China must be fought, unless we want the smearing to continue. One way to fight it is to point out some reasonably credible counter evidence. Of course, to do so here, one risks offending a moderator's notion of "unsubstantiated rumors".
Because so far you are twisting and producing your own Smear campaign.
you based off a tabloid report.
They want to believe the coronavirus was created in a lab because it makes Chinese evil to do such a thing plus it got loose which follows their narrative the Chinese are irresponsible and incompetent. The irony is when you're evil, you're able to accomplish anything hence why everyone should be afraid, but every time else... you're too inferior to do anything on your own.
That’s just as much a tabloid report as what above was posted.

“Oh yes America they are the source of the Pandemic!! Clearly they are overrun with unreported cases!! Clearly they should have been testing back in November!!! Oh Oh the cases Doubled in a few Hours!!!! OH OH Trump didn’t want testing Because he knows it’s loose already!!!!!”
give is a break.when was the first reports of something? Late November early December and in China not the US.
oh oh the US isn’t testing!! It’s cold and flu season in the US. It’s impractical to test ever case of someone with a sniffle. The first reports were from China it takes time to translate information from one nation to the other especially when they didn’t have a full test setup until January.
The cases doubled or perhaps that’s the reports catching up to the media. It takes time to test. This isn’t like a home pregnancy test that gives you positive and negative results, results that even then can be wrong and have to be checked by a proper doctor.

Oh American disinformation!! Claims of this and that Please you have the exact same thing in reverse.
But they waisted two months bad mouthing China... because China enacted a full on siege! There is quarantine and then there is what China did. It was full blown Over reaction. Let me remind you that China was saying everything was fine until they suddenly changed there minds. Cases of this and reports started in December perhaps even November they imposed the lockdown in late January. It wasn’t like a Zombie uprising where everything just went to hell it was a all’s fine until Wuhan was under lockdown.
Remember Dr. Li Wenliang who was talking with fellow peers about a SARS like Virus in December yeah him the one who died from it? Yeah remember when the police tell him to stop spreading lies?

The US was watching and thought it was just another case of man flu. Until suddenly it went big. Oh faulty kits! It happens these things take time. mph they lost control! Yet reports are still less than 500 cases. As opposed to the thousands in Wuhan at its hight. With millions in quarantine in the PRC.


This may seem like a rant but come on. Here everyone right now has plenty of helpings of Crow.

Rome burned well Nero Fiddles. You know what that is? Propaganda. Historically there are counter reports that Nero was actually leading fire brigades.
but that doesn’t look good in the narration. The US must look incompetent to the Nationalist Chinese. The Nationalists Murican must view the same. Reality is lost in the middle.
 
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As Coronavirus Spreads, So Does Xenophobia and Anti-Asian Racism
People participate in a rally in support of Chinese people and people around the world in fighting the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, in Chinatown, San Francisco on Feb. 29. The protest calls for understanding among communities and support Chinatown businesses in the U.S.

People participate in a rally in support of Chinese people and people around the world in fighting the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, in Chinatown, San Francisco on Feb. 29. The protest calls for understanding among communities and support Chinatown businesses in the U.S.

Yichuan Cao—Sipa USA
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MARCH 6, 2020
ASingaporean student and a Vietnamese art curator are reported to be the latest targets of xenophobia and racism related to coronavirus in the U.K., as a growing number of incidents have been reported around the world since the outbreak started. On March 6,
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AssassinsMace

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Because so far you are twisting and producing your own Smear campaign.
you based off a tabloid report.

That’s just as much a tabloid report as what above was posted.

“Oh yes America they are the source of the Pandemic!! Clearly they are overrun with unreported cases!! Clearly they should have been testing back in November!!! Oh Oh the cases Doubled in a few Hours!!!! OH OH Trump didn’t want testing Because he knows it’s loose already!!!!!”
give is a break.when was the first reports of something? Late November early December and in China not the US.
oh oh the US isn’t testing!! It’s cold and flu season in the US. It’s impractical to test ever case of someone with a sniffle. The first reports were from China it takes time to translate information from one nation to the other especially when they didn’t have a full test setup until January.
The cases doubled or perhaps that’s the reports catching up to the media. It takes time to test. This isn’t like a home pregnancy test that gives you positive and negative results, results that even then can be wrong and have to be checked by a proper doctor.

Oh American disinformation!! Claims of this and that Please you have the exact same thing in reverse.
But they waisted two months bad mouthing China... because China enacted a full on siege! There is quarantine and then there is what China did. It was full blown Over reaction. Let me remind you that China was saying everything was fine until they suddenly changed there minds. Cases of this and reports started in December perhaps even November they imposed the lockdown in late January. It wasn’t like a Zombie uprising where everything just went to hell it was a all’s fine until Wuhan was under lockdown.
Remember Dr. Li Wenliang who was talking with fellow peers about a SARS like Virus in December yeah him the one who died from it? Yeah remember when the police tell him to stop spreading lies?

The US was watching and thought it was just another case of man flu. Until suddenly it went big. Oh faulty kits! It happens these things take time. mph they lost control! Yet reports are still less than 500 cases. As opposed to the thousands in Wuhan at its hight. With millions in quarantine in the PRC.


This may seem like a rant but come on. Here everyone right now has plenty of helpings of Crow.

Rome burned well Nero Fiddles. You know what that is? Propaganda. Historically there are counter reports that Nero was actually leading fire brigades.
but that doesn’t look good in the narration. The US must look incompetent to the Nationalist Chinese. The Nationalists Murican must view the same. Reality is lost in the middle.

What I was referring to came from Senator Tom Cotton not some tabloid.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Doesn’t matter. Politics as usual on both sides.
You know what @AssassinsMace
I take that back Because in the case of Cotton he said on Fox News Sunday.
We don’t know what the cause is. We have to investigate that.
We know that there is a Level 4 lab 4 miles away.
He never drew the line the Washington Post NYT and Daily Beast drew the line of correlation for him. That’s the MSN being ever so helpful at taking quotes out of context.
 
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KYli

Brigadier
Doesn’t matter. Politics as usual on both sides.
You know what @AssassinsMace
I take that back Because in the case of Cotton he said on Fox News Sunday.
We don’t know what the cause is. We have to investigate that.
We know that there is a Level 4 lab 4 miles away.
He never drew the line the Washington Post NYT and Daily Beast drew the line of correlation for him. That’s the MSN being ever so helpful at taking quotes out of context.

You just want to sugarcoat what Tom Cotton said.
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"Now, we don't have evidence that this disease originated there, but because of China's duplicity and dishonesty from the beginning we need to at least ask the question," Cotton said of the lab.

"This virus did not originate in the Wuhan animal market," he said.

In response, Cotton doubled down on his claims,
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: "It's not a 'theory' and certainly not a 'conspiracy theory,' but rather a hypothesis."

"But given the CCP's ongoing dishonesty, we have to examine the hypothesis and demand the evidence," he added, referring to the Chinese Communist Party.
 

shanlung

Junior Member
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I think we should all agree we shouldn't wish something like this upon anybody.
After all, we share the same planet and same resources and DNA and all.
Of course I understand people talk trash under emotion.

Make it very clear.
I am stating things as I see it.
I am not wishing that on ANYONE unlike your innuedo on what I say.

I have many many very good American friends and friends all over the world.
You definately not included in those I considered friends.

You will instead be in the list to be ignored and whatever you write, even if grovelling apology, will not be seen by me.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
@KYli I am not sugar coating anything. I don’t touch the rest. But let’s be blunt.
we have multiple claims made with little actual fact and a whole lot of back and forth.
business as usual. Here and in both Washington and Beijing.
 

solarz

Brigadier
There is quarantine and then there is what China did. It was full blown Over reaction.

Considering that China has gotten its outbreak under control while the rest of the world is now struggling, I think it's pretty clear that China was NOT overreacting.

If you still can't see that despite skyrocketing cases in Italy, Iran, South Korea, Japan, and the US, I think you're being wilfully blind.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Sky rocketing? In Italy in Iran yes. in nations like Japan and South Korea perhaps. compared to their relative population. And the fact that South Korea refused to close the boarder to Chinese flights despite calls to do just that.
On the US you are spinning. It’s at 1/654,000. The odds of being struck by lightning are better.
 
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