Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

zgx09t

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What are you talking about dude? You can't compare hunting to wild animal markets. Sure there is a chance of a virus jumping from a animal that was killed by a hunter, but that risk is way lower than having a wild animal markets where you mix hundreds of different types of species together in a crowded space where there are thousands of people coming in and out daily. The chances of a virus jumping from animal to person is way greater in such a setting.

Stop defending stupid practices like eating wild animals. There is a reason why out of the 5 pandemics, SARS, MERS, Swine Flu, Ebola, and COVID-19, 2 of them came from China.

Not sure if you are saying just walking through these markets can give you some nasty zoonotic diseases, or people selling these meat with improper unsafe food handling combined with improper cooking at home is the problem. With proper safe food handling and proper cooking, even the infected meat can be consumed safely, according to WHO.
 

zgx09t

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Look, the only reasons these markets exist is because people eat wild animals. If no one ate wild animals than these markets wouldn't exist. If you shut down these markets but don't prosecute the people who eat these animals, the trade will definitely go underground.

Education and proper business licensing is better than blanket ban.
 

OppositeDay

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That implies very high concentrations of infected people...

Japan is going to explode and it will probably bring Taiwan down with it.

South Korea and China are both quarantining arrivals from Japan. But Taiwan depends too much on Japanese geopolitical support to impose any meaningful travel restriction.
 

siegecrossbow

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Japan is going to explode and it will probably bring Taiwan down with it.

South Korea and China are both quarantining arrivals from Japan. But Taiwan depends too much on Japanese geopolitical support to impose any meaningful travel restriction.

The thing I am curious about is how come Japan hasn't exported many cases yet. Countries like Italy, South Korea, and Spain to a lesser degree have already exported cases around the world but we haven't heard much from Japan.
 

localizer

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The victriol and intensity of those attacks from Muricans will increase exponentially.
Muricans much much better in that and in prancing about and preparing position white papers then in protection of their people.

The numbers in USA will not just double over the next few days. Unless you meant doubling every 6 hours.
Do remember their testings barely just started.

And if we all are lucky, The Dotard and the Whitehouse might well be hit hard.

The Phase 2 that I talked about barely a month ago to disbelief of many here, will just be starting.
And Phase 1 in China seems to be clearly coming to an end.

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Chairman of the American Conservative Union Matt Schlapp said he had interacted with the infected individual before shaking hands with President Trump (pictured) last week a CPAC. Pictured February 29


Just we glad we haven't reached WWIII, yet.
 

OppositeDay

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The thing I am curious about is how come Japan hasn't exported many cases yet. Countries like Italy, South Korea, and Spain to a lesser degree have already exported cases around the world but we haven't heard much from Japan.

I don't think there are many cases exported by South Korea. Japan has more exported cases, including one to Taiwan.
 

zgx09t

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USA had well over 2 months of warning to get ready.
USA chose to spend that time gloating and making fun and finding salt where they can to rub and rub into China wound.
And kicking China further in the face trying to stomp that into the mud.

I said before and I say again.
Within one month from yesterday, USA covid numbers will exceed that of China , Italy, Soouth Korea, and rest of the world combined.

And this morning, I seen an increase of +2083 world wide. Of which China number was +52 , about 2%

I think we should all agree we shouldn't wish something like this upon anybody.
After all, we share the same planet and same resources and DNA and all.
Of course I understand people talk trash under emotion.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
I think we should all agree we shouldn't wish something like this upon anybody.
After all, we share the same planet and same resources and DNA and all.
Of course I understand people talk trash under emotion.

That is all good except that they wasted 2 month bad mouthing China bordering on racism It is a case of seeing Rome is burning while Nero fiddling

Trump praises White House coronavirus response as U.S. cases surpass 500


U.S. President Donald Trump defended the "perfectly coordinated" U.S. response to the coronavirus epidemic Sunday amid heavy criticism over health cuts and strategic blunders that have failed to stem its rapid spread.
The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the country has soared past 500 including two new deaths. The virus has reached 30 U.S. states, with Oregon the latest to declare a state of emergency on Sunday, and 60 million people in California and New York states under crisis measures.
Two more deaths were reported in Washington State – both linked to a virus-hit care home near Seattle – bringing the nationwide toll to at least 21.

Trump, who has been accused of peddling misinformation on the outbreak, blamed the media in a tweet for trying to make his government "look bad."
"We have a perfectly coordinated and fine-tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus," Trump tweeted.
"We moved VERY early to close borders to certain areas, which was a Godsend. V.P. is doing a great job. The Fake News Media is doing everything possible to make us look bad. Sad!"
But Larry Hogan, the Republican governor of Maryland, criticized Trump, telling NBC the president "hasn't communicated the way I would, and the way I might like him to."
New York governor Andrew Cuomo said federal health authorities had been "caught flat-footed" and had "handcuffed" the ability of individual states to respond.
"Their messages are all over the place, frankly," he told Fox News.
Trump has been heavily rebuked for repeatedly contradicting the advice of his administration's experts in his public pronouncements about the coronavirus.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
They just all but give up on containment now they say stepping into mitigation let see how it is proceed

In interviews across major television networks on Sunday, U.S. officials all-but-admitted that efforts to contain the spread of the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, have failed and that the country now needs to move to mitigate the effects of the continuing spread of the disease on the nation’s health and econom

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Mistakes were made

Faulty test kits and internal divisions over how to respond to the spread of the virus in the United States hamstrung early efforts to get an accurate picture of how rapidly the virus was moving through the population, according to multiple reports.

“They’ve simply lost time they can’t make up. You can’t get back six weeks of blindness,” Jeremy Konyndyk, a senior policy fellow at the Center for Global Development and an Obama-era administration staffer involved in the government’s response to the spread of the ebola virus,
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. “To the extent that there’s someone to blame here, the blame is on poor, chaotic management from the White House and failure to acknowledge the big picture.”

There is a world in which a coordinated U.S. response to the outbreak of the coronavirus,
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, would have been led by the global health security team within the National Security Council, but
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by the National Security Advisor at the time, John Bolton.

In that world, perhaps the U.S. could have ramped up the production and acquisition of testing kits, provisioned facilities in communities deemed to be more at-risk with the necessary equipment, and issued emergency authorizations to enable public institutions to administer tests without undergoing formal approval processes. In that world, the CDC would not have needed to impose severe restrictions on who could be tested for the virus, because they would not have needed to limit the number of tests they could conduct to only the most pressing — or obvious — cases.

Instead, as reporting in both The Washington Post and the
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indicates, a series of poor decisions, slow responses, and technological missteps limited the government’s ability to respond effectively to the threat.

The problems seem to have been threefold — the Centers for Disease Control did not move quickly enough to manufacture test kits at scale (either because of lack of funding or political will) nor did it open up testing options to other institutions that could have worked to develop tests — and because of the limited availability of tests, the CDC rationed how many tests were performed. Those issues were compounded by the initial release of faulty tests by the CDC in early February.
 
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