Chinese semiconductor thread II

nativechicken

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I'd love to see who this person is. People can probably see I don't post anything related to semiconductor manufacturing equipments unless it's commenting on NAURA or AMEC reporting they have increased their sales on earnings call or responding to a Western article on something. All stuff you can find out just by following publicly listed stocks. If they are concerned about me commenting about these things, then maybe they should de-list themselves or not do quarterly earnings report.
我很想看看这个人是谁。人们可能会看到我不会发布任何与半导体制造设备相关的内容,除非是对 NAURA 或 AMEC 报告他们在财报电话会议上增加了销售额或回应西方有关某事的文章进行评论。您只需关注公开上市的股票即可找到所有信息。如果他们担心我对这些事情发表评论,那么也许他们应该将自己摘牌或者不做季度收益报告。

For example, I don't post sensitive topics like domestic lithography machines at all. I don't post things like what domestic machines they are missing in the Finfet process. I protect my actual sources and keep thing vague with comments like "don't worry about it, it's not a problem"
比如国产光刻机之类的敏感话题我根本不发。我不会发布诸如 Finfet 流程中缺少哪些国产机器之类的内容。我保护我的真实消息来源,并用诸如“别担心,这不是问题”之类的评论来保持模糊。

If they are uncomfortable about me posting that Huawei phones are using K9000S or Omnivision CIS, then there is nothing I can do about this, since this is something you can do a teardown of Huawei phone to see.
如果他们对我发布华为手机使用K9000S或Omnivision CIS感到不舒服,那么我对此无能为力,因为这是你可以拆解华为手机看到的。

Think tanks that advocate greater restriction are going to do so regardless.
主张加强限制的智库无论如何都会这么做。
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So, I think it's important to know that what I post is a subset of what I have access to. I also can't post everything on this forum either but I certainly have much less discretion on SDF.

About a year ago, Rick told me I was sharing too much info on twitter, so I basically stopped posting any sensitive material that I got accessed to. I don't post anything that's not public. Again, I don't consider saying Chinese OEMs using more domestic chips to be sensitive info. For example, no comment from me on CXMT and LPDDR5 until the news broke in Western media.

What this guy doesn't seem to appreciate is that there are many foreigners involved in China's semiconductor industry. Who actually have non public data and they do share that info with US government. And I know that for a fact. Whether the people at BIS actually take those info seriously is a different story. The problem is the Chinese fabs themselves.

If SMIC and NAURA are willing to speak to foreigners about their progress, then those info will get put out there. Again, I do not leak these information at all. Has anyone even see me posting those info on this thread? At most, i have discussions about this offline with @latenlazy and @BoraTas. So if the Chinese semiconductor industry want to not get probed, it needs to keep westerners out of its HVM process.
 

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This is a good article from digitimes

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quoting @tinrobert

I can't really disagree with anything in there. the new Qingpu base for huawei looks like a huge deal

Statements about SMIC expanding 7nm production line is telling me that people around the process (again, a lot of non-Chinese people are involved in China's semi industry) are seeing some progress here.
 

tokenanalyst

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So, I think it's important to know that what I post is a subset of what I have access to. I also can't post everything on this forum either but I certainly have much less discretion on SDF.

About a year ago, Rick told me I was sharing too much info on twitter, so I basically stopped posting any sensitive material that I got accessed to. I don't post anything that's not public. Again, I don't consider saying Chinese OEMs using more domestic chips to be sensitive info. For example, no comment from me on CXMT and LPDDR5 until the news broke in Western media.

What this guy doesn't seem to appreciate is that there are many foreigners involved in China's semiconductor industry. Who actually have non public data and they do share that info with US government. And I know that for a fact. Whether the people at BIS actually take those info seriously is a different story. The problem is the Chinese fabs themselves.

If SMIC and NAURA are willing to speak to foreigners about their progress, then those info will get put out there. Again, I do not leak these information at all. Has anyone even see me posting those info on this thread? At most, i have discussions about this offline with @latenlazy and @BoraTas. So if the Chinese semiconductor industry want to not get probed, it needs to keep westerners out of its HVM process.
The worst part is that guy calling you out when he is posting the same or even more "sensitive" information. Just in Chinese.
 

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The worst part is that guy calling you out when he is posting the same or even more "sensitive" information. Just in Chinese.
To be fair a lot of Western observers have horrendous Chinese language skills. Remember how they talked about genetically modified soldiers or water filled rockets based on bad literal translations? Next thing you know they probably will rewatch the conclusion that China is manually carving the chips based on bad translations.
 

tokenanalyst

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To be fair a lot of Western observers have horrendous Chinese language skills. Remember how they talked about genetically modified soldiers or water filled rockets based on bad literal translations? Next thing you know they probably will rewatch the conclusion that China is manually carving the chips based on bad translations.
I think that the language skill is the least of their issues, most of these Western observers or Think Tankers do not understand technically the subjects that they are researching or are advocating policy for or they have a very superficial level of understanding and they don't even care to learn anything beyond that.
When I said "Humanities Graduates" i don't said it to undermine humanities careers but to say that the level of understanding in a highly technical subject of this guys usually doesn't go beyond of what they learned in their humanities courses.​
 

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I think that the language skill is the least of their issues, most of these Western observers or Think Tankers do not understand technically the subjects that they are researching or are advocating policy for or they have a very superficial level of understanding and they don't even care to learn anything beyond that.
When I said "Humanities Graduates" i don't said it to undermine humanities careers but to say that the level of understanding in a highly technical subject of this guys usually doesn't go beyond of what they learned in their humanities courses.​

The problem is that they suck at humanities too. It is just more lenient since unlike engineering there is no right/wrong answer so they can get away from spouting BS as long as their audience like what they say.
 
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