China demographics thread.

Jiang ZeminFanboy

Jiang ZeminFanboy

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In Poland abortion is almost banned, you can get it if I am right only when woman life is in danger because of the baby.

And no increase in births.
Maybe because you can just go to nearby country, Czech Republic and pay and get it done because its close.

China is big so it would be hard to leave China to get abortion done, and use of contraception in China is low compared to the West, so maybe it would raise the births which didn't happen in Poland.
 
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Fundamentally, if China or any other industrialized nation wants to solve low fertility issue, it will require more than some tax incentives. Tax incentives, maternity leave, etc. are nothing new and have been tried across developed countries, yet it has failed to raise the fertility rate or barely make a difference.

I think the only real way to increase the fertility rate is to decrease the working hour. Working hours for non-physical jobs would be reduced to 4 days a week, 4 - 6 hours per day. By reducing working hours, people will encouraged to pursue their hobbies, socialize more, and most important-pursue long-term relationships.

Of course, this would require fundamental changes to the economy for this to be achieved. In China's case, China would first need to be a high-income country which will probably be achieved around 2049. Next, China would have to improve its healthcare system from universal basic coverage to universal full coverage for healthcare. Then, starting with state-owned enterprises then expanding to large private corporations, companies needs to provide some sort of daycare facility for working mothers. An example of this would be something like Mao's China where factories had daycare facilities. Finally, massive regulations on content-based algorithms which would apply mostly to social media, especially dating apps. The algorithms should encourage good, long-term relationships and not short-term casual hookups.
 
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BoraTas

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Maikeru said:
I've been saying for a while we should be looking at environmental factors e.g. microplastics. The collapsing birthrates phenomanom is global and transcends religious, ideological and economic differences.
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I wonder average weight and age of men contributed to these studies over the years though. Both weight and age decrease sperm production massively. An average man is quite old and fat in 2022.
 
tankphobia

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Overlord said:
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There is something really wrong with east Asian countries, all of them are suffering from very low birth rate . It's maybe they're more materialistic and doesn't care about having kids. You can hear even white women giving 3-4 childs in America but same thing doesn't happen in East Asian countries most of them are happy with just one child despite them being rich. Even look at Singapore rich asian country and suffering from very low birth rate.
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Quite simple in my opinion, in most of the developed world and that extends to China to a extent, it is basically impossible to buy a house in a major city with only single income unless you are in a very high paying profession.

Choosing to raise kids will demolish a family's economic potential and severely limit the careers of women in particular. It is no wonder people don't want to have kids if it means no holiday and more frugal living for the next 20 odd years.
 
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