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Viktor Jav

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That would require a massive overhaul of the tanks. Installing A PS is not like plugging in your phone charger.
Not necessarily, an APS is usually designed to be able to fit onto all vehicles with minimal fuzz. Most of the equipment are installed externally, with only the ballistic computer requiring some in depth installation.
There is some effort to put it, but not to the level of serious upgrades.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
You also need the vehicle to produce the proper electric power load to power the whole thing. And to fit it to the vehicle in a manner that allows out to take the shock of the vehicle in motion. It's so able but needs a modern tank
 

Viktor Jav

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You also need the vehicle to produce the proper electric power load to power the whole thing. And to fit it to the vehicle in a manner that allows out to take the shock of the vehicle in motion. It's so able but needs a modern tank
Considering how the most power demanding equipment (ballistic computer and radar) can be charged by connecting it to the main tank power plant or its own power plant I don't see that as a problem, nor are these thing particularly power demanding in anyway.
The concern of the system shocking the vehicle is even less of a concern, even the lightest IFV weighs 25 tons. And by principle, all current APS use minimal force to defeat the incoming chemical based projectile. Now if the projectile was a kinetic penetrator that will be a problem, but APS was designed to defeat HEAT based rounds in the first place anyway.
 

Viktor Jav

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Other way around tracked vehicles are notorious for vibration which can cause issues with electronic devices and people.
True, but its not like this is an inherent problem to be found only in APS, military systems are designed to handle things way worse then that. Unless the vehicle is being flipped over continuously, the APS should work fine.
 

Jura

General
Yesterday at 3:01 PM
... I'm guessing the main Russian concern is the Javelin: I'd expect it to blast any Separatists' tank (= former Ukrainian tank, right?) just like that
now noticed, at an important Russian unofficial site, the blog post like
Trump Approved The Sale Of Javelin Anti-Tank Missiles To Ukraine
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with above the average number of comments below it (I'm not in the mood to go through these)
 

timepass

Brigadier
ASELSAN SIGNS-ON TO EQUIP ANTONOV AIRCRAFT WITH AVIONICS



Antonov
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on December 22 that it had reached agreements with Aselsan that could see Aselsan integrate its avionics subsystems, such as auto-pilot system, to Antonov’s aircraft.

On December 20-21, Antonov – which is under Ukraine’s UkrOboronProm – and the Turkish electronics supplier Aselsan conducted meetings at the Istanbul Technical University (ITU).

Following those meetings, the two companies signed a set of agreements outlining potential integration work for Aselsan onboard Antonov aircraft.

This meeting follows a memoranda-of-understanding (MoUs)
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by Antonov with Aselsan, Havelsan and Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) in at the 2017 International Defence Industry Fair (IDEF) last May.

In their MoU, Antonov and Aselsan agreed to form working-groups to explore potential areas of bilateral cooperation, which included the prospect of integrating Aselsan subsystems to Antonov’s An-158 airliner and An-178 military transport aircraft.

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Currently, one of Antonov’s major programs is the An-132D, which it is co-producing in partnership with Saudi Arabia’s Taqnia Aeronautics Company. The latter will
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18% of the An-132D’s airframe. The An-132D is envisaged as a transport and special mission aircraft platform – Antonov had
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a MoU with Havelsan to develop a maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) variant of the An-132D at IDEF 2017. It appears that fitting the An-132D may become one of Aselsan’s launch programs with Antonov.

If brought to fruition, this would be a manifestation of UkrOboronProm
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a representative office in Turkey in February of last year. It was
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that Turkish suppliers such as Aselsan and Havelsan were being viewed as potential sources for contemporary electronics subsystems. This is now coming to pass through Aselsan’s engagement with Antonov and its supply of radio systems for Ukraine’s T-72AMT. Kiev likely believes that these partnerships will strengthen the commercial competitiveness of its products.

However, Kiev is also becoming a defence customer of Turkey. In October 2017, Aselsan
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that it signed a $43.6 million U.S. deal for radio systems with UkrOboronProm. In 2016 Kiev released a tender for 600 very high-frequency (VHF) radio systems. In November 2017, the Ukrainian Army’s Signal Corps Chief Maj. Gen. Volodymyr Rapko
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that the Ukrainian Army will equip itself with Aselsan’s VHF radio systems from 2018 through 2020. The radios will be manufactured in Ukraine under license.

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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Interesting, I wonder if Turkey might be also formulating its own Antonov buys later. Currently they have new A400Ms on order but at best those would only replace there old C130s some of Antonov's smalller transports could replace there old C160 Transtols as well as more directly the C130s. If that happened it would be a major windfall for The Ukrainian firm and a foot in the door for other possible NATO sales.
 

plawolf

Brigadier
The M107A1 is a 12.7x99mm semi automatic Anti material scoped rifle.
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It's to much gun. the round which is the same as the M2 Browning and was used in world war 2 fighters produces such an effect that a near miss would induce hydroshock. that means that a near miss is potentially lethal.
The hydroshock claim has been widely disputed, and I have serious doubts about it.

The round is simply too small, to have a lethal hydroshock effect would require the round to be extremely draggy to create a negative pressure cone big enough to have that effect. That would in turn mean the round would have very poor range and ballistic properties.

You need a far bigger round for hydroshock kills to be possible with an aerodynamic projectile.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Yeah I have to admit I was wrong, there was a recent incident where a doctor made the claim. Turns out the guy actually got his target. Still of all the "small arms" rounds one could get hit with this one is still pretty nasty and not one likely to be survived.
In the end though as Lethal aid goes, the more credible threat is the Javelin missiles.
 
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