Trump admin legacy: Poisoning future US China relationship

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free_6ix9ine

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At the rate the US is printing and buying up Chinese national companies with its hoax monies, China better start decoupling for its OWN sakes!

Absolutely, that's why if we send any more exports we should demand they pay us in something else besides their paper. Qatae and Saudi will become paupers. Since they gave away their finite oil for worthless inflationary paper. Hence Saudi agree to sell oil to China in RMB because it preserves value since we don't engage in this QE insanity.
 

localizer

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Hi localizer,

From your comment , Is this the right time for Internalization of YUAN ? especially the digital YUAN currency? I think all this action by the US is to prevent its usage?

Who knows, China needs to open up its economy more for the Yuan to be of more value. Right now rich Chinese put all their money in the West or in real estate.

If you want to be the reserve currency, you need to have an economy that the globe trusts.

Right now the only reason a foreigner would want Yuan is to buy Chinese labor.



For the near term, Yuan will appreciate due to dollar printing, unless CCP prints just as much. If they print more RMB like the US then they lose my support.
 

free_6ix9ine

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Hi localizer,

From your comment , Is this the right time for Internalization of YUAN ? especially the digital YUAN currency? I think all this action by the US is to prevent its usage?

Internationalization of yuan may not happen immediately, but it is an extremely stable currency because it's backed by real economic growth and a competent government and monetary policy. I've been converting my paychecks into yuan and gold and equities, just to preserve purchasing power
 

BMEWS

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Internationalization of yuan may not happen immediately, but it is an extremely stable currency because it's backed by real economic growth and a competent government and monetary policy. I've been converting my paychecks into yuan and gold and equities, just to preserve purchasing power

Is that paper gold or real gold?

What actual products would you recommend to spend the dollar on for those living in US? Like buy laptop, gaming PC, new car, what is best for converting dollar to real goods in case of hard fast crash and all savings toasted?
 

free_6ix9ine

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Who knows, China needs to open up its economy more for the Yuan to be of more value. Right now rich Chinese put all their money in the West or in real estate.

If you want to be the reserve currency, you need to have an economy that the globe trusts.

Right now the only reason a foreigner would want Yuan is to buy Chinese labor.



For the near term, Yuan will appreciate due to dollar printing, unless CCP prints just as much. If they do that then they lose my support.

I think this is outdated thinking, there is significant capital flight from the west into China right now because of geopolitical tensions and low yields in Western bonds. China doesn't need a reserve currency, that's a loaded term made up by the IMF, what China needs is a stable currency backed up by real productivity growth and sane monetary policy, that maintains value vis-a-vis other assets.

In terms of economy, currently China is the only major economy expected to grow this year, I think post covid will be a new brave world, if anything people have lost trust in the USs ability to maintain social cohesion and political stability or even host a competent response to major crisis. I think there will be a paradigm shift in how we view the trustworthiness of currencies.
 

localizer

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I think this is outdated thinking, there is significant capital flight from the west into China right now because of geopolitical tensions and low yields in Western bonds. China doesn't need a reserve currency, that's a loaded term made up by the IMF, what China needs is a stable currency backed up by real productivity growth and sane monetary policy, that maintains value vis-a-vis other assets.

In terms of economy, currently China is the only major economy expected to grow this year, I think post covid will be a new brave world, if anything people have lost trust in the USs ability to maintain social cohesion and political stability or even host a competent response to major crisis. I think there will be a paradigm shift in how we view the trustworthiness of currencies.


Economic liberalization will only make China grow faster. CCP balances control vs economy, but Chinese must realize by now that CCP is their best option. CCP should realize this and relax controls and still feel safe.

The only reason I can think of Chinese becoming dissatisfied the CCP is if CCP goes regressive on the economy.
 

ansy1968

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Who knows, China needs to open up its economy more for the Yuan to be of more value. Right now rich Chinese put all their money in the West or in real estate.

If you want to be the reserve currency, you need to have an economy that the globe trusts.

Right now the only reason a foreigner would want Yuan is to buy Chinese labor.



For the near term, Yuan will appreciate due to dollar printing, unless CCP prints just as much. If they print more RMB like the US then they lose my support.
Hi localizer,

So appreciating YUAN may be good for the Chinese economy cause importation of goods and input will be cheaper while it balanced out the cost in labor, I think its a win for China.
 

free_6ix9ine

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Is that paper gold or real gold?

What actual products would you recommend to spend the dollar on for those living in US? Like buy laptop, gaming PC, new car, what is best for converting dollar to real goods in case of hard fast crash and all savings toasted?

Real gold my friend. I've bought credit Suisse gold, RMB via a broker, lots of stock etfs, a new kayak, PC, etc. im trying to hold on only enough cash for rent and bills. Inflation is coming in my opinion, stores are stripped of goods, because they giving people so much money via unemployment checks, that people are buying up every thing.
 
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