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sndef888

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Has any schedule been released for when the Kidd class and Knox class will be decommissioned? Some of the older ones are already approaching 4-50 years of age
 

zxy_bc

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Has any schedule been released for when the Kidd class and Knox class will be decommissioned? Some of the older ones are already approaching 4-50 years of age
Kidd class are probably gonna be a long-shot. Those Knox class however do have a good chance of full-retirement. (As long as the new Perry Class could fill in the void)
 

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In the wake of the F-16V crash ROCAF released their pilot recruit and retirement numbers between 2011 and 2019 and sure enough it's a grim picture. In those 9 years they grew their fighter pilot pool by a net 21. They needed to have an increase of 110 to meet the mininum pilot to plane ratio set by ROCAF of 1.33, which is already lower than NATO ideal of 1.5.
 

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In the wake of the F-16V crash ROCAF released their pilot recruit and retirement numbers between 2011 and 2019 and sure enough it's a grim picture. In those 9 years they grew their fighter pilot pool by a net 21. They needed to have an increase of 110 to meet the mininum pilot to plane ratio set by ROCAF of 1.33, which is already lower than NATO ideal of 1.5.
I guess it’s time for them to lower their standards for pilot selection.
 

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In the wake of the F-16V crash ROCAF released their pilot recruit and retirement numbers between 2011 and 2019 and sure enough it's a grim picture. In those 9 years they grew their fighter pilot pool by a net 21. They needed to have an increase of 110 to meet the mininum pilot to plane ratio set by ROCAF of 1.33, which is already lower than NATO ideal of 1.5.
Do we have any estimates of how much in PLAAF?
 

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Scandal in progress in ROC, turns out a non-trivial amount of parts in Sky Bow missile are sourced from... how do I put this... bought online from Taobao.

包括螺絲、爆炸用的過氯酸銨原料、通電用的矽控整流器、軍規電線、二極體及線性積體電路等重大標案竟都出包
Parts include screws, ammonium perchlorate used as explosive filling, thyristor, milspec wire, transistors and integrated circuits.

In addition the rocket motor's solid propellent is also outsourced and the source is not clear.
 

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Scandal in progress in ROC, turns out a non-trivial amount of parts in Sky Bow missile are sourced from... how do I put this... bought online from Taobao.


Parts include screws, ammonium perchlorate used as explosive filling, thyristor, milspec wire, transistors and integrated circuits.

In addition the rocket motor's solid propellent is also outsourced and the source is not clear.
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Same news in English, although it has fewer details compared to the original article in Chinese.
 

Mr T

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Oh dear, this news must be conflicting for Chinese nationalists.

On the one hand, the defective parts were sourced from China. On the other hand suggesting that Chinese products are quality items so the problem is unlikely to be significant passes up an opportunity to criticise Taiwan.

Chinese nationalists: "Error! Conflict - error! BZZZ! BZZZ! BZZZ! Beoooop."

Anyway, it looks like the problem was found before any/many missiles were built, so no real harm done in the end. Although I doubt the contracting companies in question are going to have a nice next couple of years.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Oh dear, this news must be conflicting for Chinese nationalists.

On the one hand, the defective parts were sourced from China. On the other hand suggesting that Chinese products are quality items so the problem is unlikely to be significant passes up an opportunity to criticise Taiwan.

Chinese nationalists: "Error! Conflict - error! BZZZ! BZZZ! BZZZ! Beoooop."

Anyway, it looks like the problem was found before any/many missiles were built, so no harm done in the end.
Even the shadiest dealer on Taobao has better quality than anything Taiwan can dream of making for itself.
 

ougoah

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Oh dear, this news must be conflicting for Chinese nationalists.

On the one hand, the defective parts were sourced from China. On the other hand suggesting that Chinese products are quality items so the problem is unlikely to be significant passes up an opportunity to criticise Taiwan.

Chinese nationalists: "Error! Conflict - error! BZZZ! BZZZ! BZZZ! Beoooop."

Anyway, it looks like the problem was found before any/many missiles were built, so no real harm done in the end. Although I doubt the contracting companies in question are going to have a nice next couple of years.

Except only you are suggesting that with this total strawman post of yours. Who is "suggesting that Chinese products are quality items so the problem is unlikely to be significant passes up an opportunity to criticise Taiwan"... whatever this sentence of yours even means.

The real question is why Taiwan needs to source their Sky Bow missile from China. That's embarrassing. Well of course the PRC will sell them inferior material. Imagine the quality of material the US would supply Russia if Russia purchased components used on Russian strategic weapons systems from the US.

If the quality of the product supplied to Taiwan is indeed inferior, it could have been done so intentionally. It could have been done so unintentionally but the Taiwanese simply used a crappy supplier instead of a good one. One thing's for sure, they chose a Chinese supplier. Good ones and bad ones out there but no alternative to Chinese supplier. Boo hoo your choices for suppliers are China, China, and China lol. They didn't choose a European supplier or an American one. That tells you plenty. They sure didn't use an... Indian... supplier ;):p

If the quality of the product supplied is NOT inferior (your second hand ;)) tell me who's missing some opportunity to make fun of Taiwan. I hear crickets. No one cares. Sky Bow missiles in service or not, no one is making much noise about it or seems to care. Only you suggest Chinese "nationalists" are hoping to troll around like you. Sorry but read through the posts, it's evident people don't give half a shit about some sky bow missile. They can have 1000 of those and it would make hardly a difference.

In the meantime it seems they chose a Chinese supplier who either intentionally delivered them faulty products (if the news is even true) or was simply a dud supplier... Still one that the Taiwanese themselves selected lol.
 
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