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OedoSoldier

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IMO, the equipment on these ships looks very true, so it's likely a legitimate project. Props generally do not have such high precision.

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As for the text on the containers, it’s probably just camouflage used during transportation, likely created by the manufacturer themselves. We’ve seen many amusing disguises used by the PLA before.
 

Temstar

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Dabao is already on the case:
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Besides fire support for a Taiwan situation, perhaps there's also an opportunity here for Q-ship (or just the threat of Q-ship) to dissuade the US from any further attempt at bringing back privateering?

A Q-ship version, where its armed nature may not be apparent until the last moment could be positioned close to enemy harbour using cargo ship cover and at outbreak of hostility open fire with a load of lancet style drones to damage the port facility and any docked warship.
 
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Gloire_bb

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I was wondering what the text on the containers were.

At least they have a sense of humour about it.


I guess the next question is what calibre those VLS tubes are -- whether they're H/AJK-16 pattern, UVLS pattern, or something else entirely.


For a Taiwan contingency one might even suggest this specific loadout with anywhere from 48-60 VLS (4-5 ISO containers abreast, 3 ISO containers longitudinal, 4 tubes per container) would be somewhat overkill given the VLS tubes themselves seem full sized for up to LRSAM weapons. Perhaps they may benefit from an ISO container configured for packing the 3-5 MR SAM, HQ-17 and/or HQ-15/FK-3000s small SAMs instead.
Not 100% sure, but given the height/length of standard 40ft container, those are UVLS. 56 erected, likely 60 overall.
And of course radar suit really smells 054b.
 

Blitzo

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Not 100% sure, but given the height/length of standard 40ft container, those are UVLS. 56 erected, likely 60 overall.
And of course radar suit really smells 054b.

The details of the tubes, per noted by @OedoSoldier at the top of this page #7121, is also indicative that these may be UVLS.

Which, if this whole thing is real, has some interesting implications for not only the sort of capabilities this thing may have, but also that UVLS payloads may be integrated with that radar which is 054B flavoured... which in turn has interesting implications for the networking capability of 054Bs and UVLS equipped ships... as well as the prospect of a future ship that may have 054B's radar and UVLS on the same hull (future frigate mayhaps). But I digress.
 

Temstar

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Otter on Weibo:






(Though, (understandably) Otter is still doubtful on whether these containerized radar and weapon systems are actually real or just movie props for the time being)

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How would you even convince China Film Administration that not only are you making a movie where militarisation of China's merchant ships is a plot element, it's in fact central enough to the story that instead of using miniatures and CG, you are legit going to modify a real merchant ship and fill it with realistic looking militarised containers as your movie set.

If it really is a movie set I'll be there on opening night even if the plot is as crappy as Born to Fly just on account of the effort involved.
 
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plawolf

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The one detail that makes me a little dubious that this container destroyer is real is the Type730/1130 at the front.

Those guns pack some serious kick, so it would require some serious structural bracing to allow the containers to support it. Especially when it’s stacked so high up. Of course it’s doable, but just seems needlessly making things hard on yourself when a HQ10 launcher in the same position would be far easier from a structural engineering POV, as well as providing better air defence capabilities.

The only justification I can think of for choosing the gun based CIWS is if it’s meant to offer some secondary direct fire defences against close by surface threats like drone boats and/or small coast guard cutters and the like, for long range independent operations far from friendly naval support.
 
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