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Anlsvrthng

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I kind of agree. But tbh, Einstein & hawkins comes one in several generation. If you want to win a long race, you need all the help you can get. System & talent.
Einstein was faster by month, or worst case by yea(s) than others.

We usually know only the persons whom gain popularity due to random reasons.
 

kentchang

Junior Member
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Really? We are genetically better at math and science? Loll

Just one little tidbit from one of Malcolm Gladwell's books.

Chinese kids have an advantage in math/multiplication table simply because of the language. Chinese numbering system is extremely regular with none of the French Soixante-Quinze (75 = 60 + 15) BS. Digits in Chinese are also mono-syllabic which makes it much easier to memorize.

Great book. All his books are must reads.
 

ansy1968

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Just one little tidbit from one of Malcolm Gladwell's books.

Chinese kids have an advantage in math/multiplication table simply because of the language. Chinese numbering system is extremely regular with none of the French Soixante-Quinze (75 = 60 + 15) BS. Digits in Chinese are also mono-syllabic which makes it much easier to memorize.

Great book. All his books are must reads.
@kentchang

They say that root learning Chinese style prohibit innovation, partly true but you need those kind of people to engineer your dreams and innovation. People like Musk are not innovators , he just copied the ideas from different source and had the connection to fund those project.
 

In4ser

Junior Member
Talent overrated. The system is the king, that generate all talent and value.

The school is only one aspect all of that story, and even not the most significant.
Agreed. To come up with revolutionary ideas, you need to be able to challenge conventional norms and beliefs. However, in order to be able for that to occur, that person must be equipped with the knowledge and skills to be in a position to make changes. The West is too fixated on the former and forgetting the latter.

China is better suited for orienting itself to capitalize on the 2nd mover advantage. It might not be able to nurture the 'free-thinking' creative minds that make revolutionary ideas or technologies like in the West but it makes up for it by being more practical and focused. The Chinese model take a more evolutionary approach to things by building upon established ideas and technologies that work. It's not better or worse, it’s just different. Many of today's biggest brands were not pioneers who created the first of its kind product or service but someone who did it better than their competition by learning from their competitor’s successes and failures. If the West is the so-called 'leader' that inspires the world with dreams and ideas, then China is the 'manager' that gets things done.

For all intents and purposes, China doesn’t need reinvent the geopolitical game; it just needs to continue to play the game better.
 
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Petrolicious88

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Agreed. To come up with revolutionary ideas, you need to be able to challenge conventional norms and beliefs. However, in order to be able for that to occur, that person must be equipped with the knowledge and skills to be in a position to make changes. The West is too fixated on the former and forgetting the latter.

China is better suited for orienting itself to capitalize on the 2nd mover advantage. It might not be able to nurture the 'free-thinking' creative minds that make revolutionary ideas or technologies like in the West but it makes up for it by being more practical and focused. The Chinese model take a more evolutionary approach to things by building upon established ideas and technologies that work. It's not better or worse, it’s just different. Many of today's biggest brands were not pioneers who created the first of its kind product or service but someone who did it better than their competition by learning from their competitor’s successes and failures. If the West is the so-called 'leader' that inspires the world with dreams and ideas, then China is the 'manager' that gets things done.

For all intents and purposes, China doesn’t need reinvent the geopolitical game; it just needs to continue to play the game better.
Japanese is like that too. Didn’t invent many things, but made improvements on many of them.
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
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Japanese is like that too. Didn’t invent many things, but made improvements on many of them.
@Petrolicious88

I may partly disagree, what inhibit them is two fold one is their Corporate Structure KEIRETSU. It was effective during Japan pre industrial stage. the second is the PLAZA ACCORD, this is the main reason that zap the mojo out of modern Japan and dis incentivize innovation.
 

Nobonita Barua

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Agreed. To come up with revolutionary ideas, you need to be able to challenge conventional norms and beliefs. However, in order to be able for that to occur, that person must be equipped with the knowledge and skills to be in a position to make changes. The West is too fixated on the former and forgetting the latter.

China is better suited for orienting itself to capitalize on the 2nd mover advantage. It might not be able to nurture the 'free-thinking' creative minds that make revolutionary ideas or technologies like in the West but it makes up for it by being more practical and focused. The Chinese model take a more evolutionary approach to things by building upon established ideas and technologies that work. It's not better or worse, it’s just different. Many of today's biggest brands were not pioneers who created the first of its kind product or service but someone who did it better than their competition by learning from their competitor’s successes and failures. If the West is the so-called 'leader' that inspires the world with dreams and ideas, then China is the 'manager' that gets things done.

For all intents and purposes, China doesn’t need reinvent the geopolitical game; it just needs to continue to play the game better.
I agree with pretty much everything except this part. Conventional norms & beliefs don't stop anyone moving forward as long as it doesn't blind people of the truth & right and it doesn't stop changes that is natural.

China has depended on their conventional norms of working culture coupled with hybrid system of government. Served them pretty well.
 

In4ser

Junior Member
I agree with pretty much everything except this part. Conventional norms & beliefs don't stop anyone moving forward as long as it doesn't blind people of the truth & right and it doesn't stop changes that is natural.

China has depended on their conventional norms of working culture coupled with hybrid system of government. Served them pretty well.
I'm not disagreeing with you but seem to miss the wording 'revolutionary.' By that, I mean a paradigm shift in how things are done. For example, implementing Mass Industrialization or created the Internet where nothing like it has existed before. As I mentioned earlier, my view is that China's approach is evolutionary.
 
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