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muddie

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If the US election Joe Biden, he can blame botching COVID and the BLM police brutality issues on Trump. Democratic Presidents are a lot more popular overseas than Trump.
Biden's administration is more dangerous simply because they are more diplomatic and will try to better relations with the EU and SEA countries. Democrats would also be more open to immigration and trade, straying away from Trump administration's protectionist policies.

You can see U.S. tech giants throwing all of their weight on Biden because Trump's immigration policies and trade policies have hurt their wallets. I think a Biden administration would open up more trade with China but they are equally anti-China, just more subtle and deceptive.

There has been a lot of talk on how China/Russia want Trump to win a reelection and I don't think that's without merit. Trump has showed how incompetent his administration his in dealing with crisis, and continually shooting itself in the foot by attacking immigration and stiring up racial divide in the U.S.
 

supercat

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I love to see chinese companies succeed but the west is waging all out war against China inc. doesn’t seem like China has any options to fight back right now. All in all, China really needs to up its PR game.
Well, if the U.S. bans TikTok and other Chinese social media apps, then they should stop riding the moral high horse and blaming China for banning their social media apps.

How US restrictions drove Deutsche Telekom and Huawei closer together
Internal documents illustrate leading European operator's special relationship with Huawei
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German exception
Allegations that Huawei poses a security risk largely fell on deaf ears at the German chancellery in Berlin.

Chancellor Angela Merkel “threw all her political weight behind keeping Huawei, at least for some part, in Germany,” said Benner.

In the past year she dismissed growing pressure from her junior coalition partner SPD in parliament, part of her own conservative faction and even government ministers like Foreign Minister Heiko Maas to impose much tougher restrictions on Chinese vendors to participate in Germany’s 5G rollout.

Merkel’s stance reflected warnings by Deutsche Telekom — of which the German state holds a 14.5-percent stake — that a ban on Huawei gear would put 5G rollout at risk of delays and huge extra costs. Other German businesses, including the powerful automotive sector, also fear banning Huawei could lead to retaliatory measures in China that hurt their profits.

“Merkel’s chief concern is about retaliation on German companies in China,” said Benner. “It’s not Deutsche Telekom’s pressure that’s driving this … but rather the concerns about German businesses and large German companies that depend on the Chinese market.”
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GM sells 30% more cars in China than in the U.S. Yet in the eyes of Trump and his bunch, everything is a zero-sum game.
 

ansy1968

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hi Skywatcher

your prognosis is correct, Huawei will use other 5nm chips for its 5G phone and its not Qualcomm.

The rational in Huawei sanction is to kill Hisilicon and force it to buy American chip. It backfire badly, instead there is a cooperation between Huawei and other Taiwanese tech company like Mediatek to use its chips instead.


Huawei will be MediaTek's biggest customer for chips next year, report says
2020-07-08 12:22:39 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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Huawei will be MediaTek's biggest customer for chips next year, report says-cnTechPost

Due to the US ban, Huawei's chip-making arm Hisilicon could not use US devices to mass-produced chips. But Huawei had already had a backup plan with its smartphones beginning to adopt MediaTek mobile phone chips in large numbers.

Since 2020, seven Huawei smartphones have adopted MediaTek's Helio 4G chip or Dimensity 5G chip.

Taiwan's Business Times reported on July 7 that Huawei's new 5G phones, which are expected to be launched in the second half of the year, will also use the MediaTek solution.
Hisilicon's Kirin 1020 chip using TSMC's 5nm process is expected to grab the 120-day grace period to ship and is enough for 8.5 to 9 million 5G flagship Mate 40 series in late 2020. But after the grace period Hisilicon is no longer able to mass produce any chips of its own design.
According to the report, Huawei has shown little interest in Qualcomm's phone chips, and in 2021 it will accelerate the introduction of MediaTek 5G mobile phone chips and is expected to become MediaTek's largest customer.


Huawei originally commissioned TSMC 5nm foundry Kirin 1020 mobile phone chip, because the ban has been partially completed before the release of the photomask process, so can still rush to ship within the 120-day grace period.
Analysts said out that Hisilicon will be able to ship about 20,000 Kirin 1020 wafers in August and September and that can still support 8.5 million to 9 million Mate 40 phones shipping.

In fact, Huawei has had seven phones using MediaTek solutions since 2020, including Enjoy 10e, Honor Play 9A, Enjoy Z, Enjoy 20 Pro, Honor Play 4, Honor 30 Lite, Honor X10 Max.
Huawei will accelerate the adoption of MediaTek 5G mobile phone chips in the second half of the year, and in 2021 will launch a number of new handsets equipped with MediaTek 5G chips, the report said.
 

ansy1968

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What really tick me off is that other Taiwanese tech company were able to work around the ban while TSMC cannot. I mean China today and in the future is their largest customer, why will you ignore it, again sorry for the rant.
 

ansy1968

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Chinese CPU maker Zhaoxin to release stand alone GPU this year
2020-07-08 18:53:57 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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In a redesigned official website, Chinese CPU maker Shanghai Zhaoxin Semiconductor talked for the first time about its plans to launch stand alone GPU products.
In the
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, a Zhaoxin executive said the GPU products will be based on TSMC's 28nm process and its power consumption is around 70W.

Chinese CPU maker Zhaoxin to release stand alone GPU this year-cnTechPost


Zhaoxin said that this will fill a gap in China's GPU space.
The video also mentioned that Zhaoxin will launch products for laptops and Pad this year, targeting portable devices.
Zhaoxin will also launch a multi-core server offering that is on par with Intel's mid- to high-end offerings.
On July 7, Zhaoxin said its website (www.
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The new website presents hot information in the form of videos, and products about Zhaoxin CPUs in the general-purpose processor section.
It also has a solutions section that showcases Zhaoxin CPU-based desktops, laptops, and cloud terminals.


Zhaoxin, which roughly translates to "million core", is a Chinese state-owned holding company established in 2013.

Zhaoxin is 80% owned by a subsidiary of Shanghai SASAC, with the remaining shares mainly held by VIA Technologies.
The company is headquartered in Zhangjiang, Shanghai, with R&D centers and branch offices in Beijing, Xi'an, Wuhan, and Shenzhen.
 

ansy1968

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China is a huge Market, Huawei is able to become world number because of it and during a pandemic.

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Huawei may become world's No. 1 in Q2 phone shipments, analyst says

2020-07-08 19:43:28 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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Huawei may become world's No. 1 in Q2 phone shipments, analyst says-cnTechPost

The new coronavirus outbreak caused Samsung shipments to plummet, as a result, less affected Huawei may overtake it as the world's No. 1 in the second quarter.

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that from April to June Huawei's mobile phone shipments may stand at 55 million units. And Samsung's shipments will be 51 million units, lower than Huawei.

Market research data showed that in April-May this year, Samsung's smartphone shipments fell about 40% year-on-year, to about 30 million units. Although the figures rebounded in June, the overall second quarter was still down about 30%.
Samsung's share of the Chinese smartphone market is currently less than 1%, while Huawei is over 40%.
In this epidemic, China restarted its economy earlier than Europe and the United States, and there was no massive secondary outbreak, which resulted in Samsung's sales gap with Huawei.


Over the past few years, Samsung has maintained its 300 million smartphone shipments per year, making it the world's No. 1 smartphone shipper.
This year is a tough year for global smartphone manufacturers. In June IDC forecast that by 2020, the world smartphone Shipments will be down 12% year-on-year, the sharpest decline in history.
 

ansy1968

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I think this pandemic is a blessing for Huawei, it had given it precious time to adjust its strategy ,to work with SMIC and to diversify.
 

ansy1968

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China investment policy for EV is bearing fruit, not all will survive but within 5 years hopefully there will be a Chinese Tesla that will dominate.

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China's saw 20,000 new energy vehicle-related company registrations in Q2
2020-07-08 20:45:49 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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China's saw 20,000 new energy vehicle-related company registrations in Q2-cnTechPost

Domestic and foreign car companies, including BYD, Volkswagen, Toyota and others, have been building new energy vehicle projects in China. So how many new energy car companies are there in China?
According to data provider Qichacha, China added 47,000 new new energy vehicle-related companies in 2019 and the current total stood at 192,000.

In the second quarter of this year, the number of registrations reached 20,000, up 122.2% from the previous quarter. There were 65,000 companies with registered capital of 10 million or more, accounting for 34% of the total.
In the last decade of industry development, the number of registrations began to jump significantly around 2014. 2018 reached its peak with new registrations of 49,000.
China's saw 20,000 new energy vehicle-related company registrations in Q2-cnTechPost



In 2019, the number of new registrations reached 47,000, more than 23 times the number of 2010 registrations.
Geographically, Shanghai was the only municipality to make the top 10 list, with 10,000 companies.

Guangdong province ranked first with 23,000 companies, followed by Shandong and Jiangsu in the provincial rankings.
China's saw 20,000 new energy vehicle-related company registrations in Q2-cnTechPost



Jiangsu's growth this year is particularly impressive, with 3,277 new energy vehicle companies registered from January to June 2020. The number of companies was up 108.6 percent compared to the same period last year.

Of the 16,000 companies in Jiangsu Province, Suzhou accounted for the largest share with 3,251, followed by Nanjing with 2,939.
From January to June 2020, there were 29,000 new energy vehicle-related company registrations in China, up from the same period in 2019 up 26.1%. The figure for the second quarter was 20,000, up 122.2% from the first quarter.
In terms of registered capital, there are 38,000 companies with registered capital of less than 1 million, accounting for 20% of the total registrations.
There are 57,000 companies with registered capital between 1-5 million, accounting for 30 per cent of the total registrations. In addition, companies with a registered capital of more than 10 million account for 34% of the total.
 

Tam

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Great video that puts Harmony OS into perspective. It may not be just a Chinese domestic Android alternative --- its roots may go deeper into Huawei's dream of being like Apple---to have a completely top down integrated approach where software and hardware are designed and written deeply and tightly for each other like iPhone is to iOS, instead of the be everyone and everything mess that Android OS has become.

 

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