New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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@coolgod is correct, UWB should be an open to all manufacturers
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That being said, probably BYD is the only one that implemented it through UWB so far
There are others (BMW, Hyundai-Kia), but they are using Bluetooth
It is open to everyone, but requires extensive conformance. So far, apple has only approved byd for uwb. Which should show you how difficult it is to pass apple’s validation on this and how closely byd must have worked with apple to be the only one to be approved to use it.

Again, only byd has access to uwb right now.

I mean you can look up other ev makers in China and see who else mention uwb support in their OTAs or product releases.
 

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It is open to everyone, but requires extensive conformance. So far, apple has only approved byd for uwb. Which should show you how difficult it is to pass apple’s validation on this and how closely byd must have worked with apple to be the only one to be approved to use it.

Again, only byd has access to uwb right now.

I mean you can look up other ev makers in China and see who else mention uwb support in their OTAs or product releases.

Oh absolutely, Apple is known to provide extra support to important clients.

That being said, I think it's likely that BYD is the only one with support not because of their relationship with Apple, but because they chose to have the "best" solution. UWB is supposed to be technically superior than BLE, but BLE is cheaper. Most automakers prefer the latter.
 

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Oh absolutely, Apple is known to provide extra support to important clients.

That being said, I think it's likely that BYD is the only one with support not because of their relationship with Apple, but because they chose to have the "best" solution. UWB is supposed to be technically superior than BLE, but BLE is cheaper. Most automakers prefer the latter.
I can only tell you what I hear from those programs in China from people in automotive industry. Many automakers want uwb access, but only byd has gotten it so far. That should tell you something. Remember, byd is the biggest player. It was supposed to be the battery supplier for apple planned car. And it is a major apple supplier. There are many reasons why byd is prioritized ahead of others

It’s not limited to just apple. For Qualcomm, it specifically worked with byd to design cockpit chips for byd models. Those Chips are not available to others.

Big suppliers only do extra work for large automakers.
 

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CATL is cooperating with Tesla (fast charging battery and battery making equipment for Nevada factory), Ford, and now GM (LFP technology and battery factory).

CATL Working With Tesla on Fast-Charging Cells, Supplying Nevada​

  • Zeng said CATL plans to train Ford engineers at China plant
  • Client trust that transcends political disturbances key: Zeng
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CATL negotiating licensing LFP battery tech to GM and to build joint factory​

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U8 doing some crazy thing:
 

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I asked a few months ago, is there any updates regarding the CATL condensed batteries? Doesn't seem like there's anything that came out since they announced it early last year.


In an interview with the Financial Times, Robin Zeng said:
Rather than solid-state, Zeng said his group was targeting sodium-ion batteries and condensed-matter batteries — which use a semi-solid material — with prototypes already in production.
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BYD coming out with new safety feature called MEB for low speed emergency braking

Xiaomi su7 showing leading performance in real world testing done by DCD

BYD Yuan up getting 20k orders in 3 days

Looks like the people memeing about Xiaomi might have to eat their words soon…

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Still funny though.
 

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I think Xiaomi is going to disproportionately affect Model 3 sales compared to other Chinese models

A lot of Tesla buyers buy Tesla for the brand name because they don't want some "crap domestic brand".

Xiaomi has a pretty good reputation even amongst people like Western-leaning Shanghai liberals
 

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Wcf said blade 2.0 will come out in August at earliest and have energy density of 190wh/kg at pack level

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Byd making great progress in Thailand. It will deliver first locally produced car in q3

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huge demand for byd dolphin mini in Brazil. Huge export potential in latam

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Demonstration of Xiaomi auto home integration
 
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