New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

tphuang

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BYD entering Denmark. these announcements are coming pretty frequently. The Yuan+ production better keep up.
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here is the other part to look at
The legacy foreign automakers cannot afford to be this slow and make mistakes when domestic automakers are able to move quickly and take over market share. I think the future of Cadillac in China is very much in doubt.

Back onto the Yichun deal. 100k t of lithium carbonate is a lot. That corresponds to 200 GWh of LFP battery.

Kepe in mind that BYD up to this point had only signed 106k t (30k at Nanning, 6k at Guizhou, 30k at Lake Zabuye, 40k at another Qinghai location) of lithium mining rights domestically (no idea how much the African investments will yield). So this essentially doubles their yearly lithium mining in take just from domestic mines. They have sourced enough for 400 Gwh of battery, which is enough for probably 6 to 8 million cars. If we add additional African mines (100k a year for 10 years) and possible other sources, they will have enough for probably 600 GWh of yearly battery production by 2025 and enough for close to 10 million cars (not all of which will be produced for BYD cars). All this is to say 30 GWh factory is a good investment for this much Lithium rights.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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BYD entering Denmark. these announcements are coming pretty frequently. The Yuan+ production better keep up.
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here is the other part to look at
The legacy foreign automakers cannot afford to be this slow and make mistakes when domestic automakers are able to move quickly and take over market share. I think the future of Cadillac in China is very much in doubt.

Back onto the Yichun deal. 100k t of lithium carbonate is a lot. That corresponds to 200 GWh of LFP battery.

Kepe in mind that BYD up to this point had only signed 106k t (30k at Nanning, 6k at Guizhou, 30k at Lake Zabuye, 40k at another Qinghai location) of lithium mining rights domestically (no idea how much the African investments will yield). So this essentially doubles their yearly lithium mining in take just from domestic mines. They have sourced enough for 400 Gwh of battery, which is enough for probably 6 to 8 million cars. If we add additional African mines (100k a year for 10 years) and possible other sources, they will have enough for probably 600 GWh of yearly battery production by 2025 and enough for close to 10 million cars (not all of which will be produced for BYD cars). All this is to say 30 GWh factory is a good investment for this much Lithium rights.
Wow Wang Chuanfu is really playing 16 dimensional weiqi here.
 

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Back onto the Yichun deal. 100k t of lithium carbonate is a lot. That corresponds to 200 GWh of LFP battery.

Kepe in mind that BYD up to this point had only signed 106k t (30k at Nanning, 6k at Guizhou, 30k at Lake Zabuye, 40k at another Qinghai location) of lithium mining rights domestically (no idea how much the African investments will yield). So this essentially doubles their yearly lithium mining in take just from domestic mines. They have sourced enough for 400 Gwh of battery, which is enough for probably 6 to 8 million cars. If we add additional African mines (100k a year for 10 years) and possible other sources, they will have enough for probably 600 GWh of yearly battery production by 2025 and enough for close to 10 million cars (not all of which will be produced for BYD cars). All this is to say 30 GWh factory is a good investment for this much Lithium rights.

200 GWh of LFP battery. If the average battery pack is 50 KWh, that would mean another 4 million vehicles.
 

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In 5 minutes, XPeng's 800V S4 supercharger can provide 200 km (124 mile), while Tesla's V3 supercharger can provide 150 km (93 mile), and Porsche's Turbo supercharger can give you 120 km (75 mile).

XPeng shows off ultra-fast charging tech that can give vehicles 210 km range in 5 minutes​

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GAC is another EV maker that manufactures electric motor and drivetrain for EVs.

GAC to establish $320 million unit to make EV powertrains​

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tphuang

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200 GWh of LFP battery. If the average battery pack is 50 KWh, that would mean another 4 million vehicles.
Half of their cars are phev, which only use 15 to 20 kwh of batteries. their bev cars on the high end is 60 to 80 kwh for high end and probably 30 to 45 kwh for low end (dolphin eg). They will have higher end cars coming with 150 kwh battery pack with the new luxury brand, but I think 40 kwh on average is a reasonable estimate for the next couple of years and slowly creeping up to 50 kwh as energy density keep improving.
 
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