Ladakh Flash Point

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ougoah

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Lol what can they do about it?

It's India that is resisting disengagement. They have yet to vacate disputed land. If the Indians vacate, they could easily "demand" (really concede) to a buffer deal. They need to hold onto current positions and avoid buffer deal at all costs if they have any real desire to claim Aksai Chin which btw is something officially still claimed by India (along with the entire disputed region including the 80% that China's controlled for 60 years).

Somehow this is presented as China refusing to disengage. Umm if that's the case why is India much more present within the 20%? China has some token positions and claims to ensure the remaining 20% doesn't end up in India's control. India wants to achieve de facto control previously relying on salami slicing tactics and more patrols but since the confrontation, relying on out staying PLA. Basically both sides are engaged in a pseudo squatting contest. See who out-squats the other. Well at least it's relatively stable and peaceful compared to contact engagement.
 

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I wonder why this region is more active than the Arunachal Pradesh region which is closer to china's east and looks way more habitable than this rock and snow called Aksai chin
 

ougoah

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This must be from the Indian narrative engineers who brought you "we see J-20 from 300km away with 1990s radar technology"... during a time when not a single J-20 was even delivered and stationed to a brigade within 1000km of Ladakh.

BTW take a moment to let that range claim sink in. Either J-20 has an RCS of a few hundred Su-27s or their radars can detect <0.01m^2 objects from a thousand kilometers away... many orders of magnitude better than those silly American, Chinese etc radars. No wonder the Russians didn't let Indian pilots use the Bars when doing exercises with the USAF. It'll burn a hole through an A-10 with that sort of wonderful performance.
 

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This particular sentence, "Sources said H-20 bombers are aimed at ending the edge India acquired through the acquisition of Rafale jets.", has me chuckling.
What edge has Rafale given India vis-a-vis China?
In fact, India is nowhere even close to catching up, forget about having an edge.

Maybe, the Rafale gives India a slight edge over Pakistan (at least on paper), but even that too will be largely dependent upon how the IAF implements its strategies and logistcics.
If the Balakot incident were any indication, the IAF is not in a good shape at all.

I still feel there is a lot of delusions of grandeur within the Indian Military and Public alike, they are simply living in a Bollywood dream. Or maybe the truth is just too frightening to accept.
 

ougoah

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This particular sentence, "Sources said H-20 bombers are aimed at ending the edge India acquired through the acquisition of Rafale jets.", has me chuckling.
What edge has Rafale given India vis-a-vis China?
In fact, India is nowhere even close to catching up, forget about having an edge.

Maybe, the Rafale gives India a slight edge over Pakistan (at least on paper), but even that too will be largely dependent upon how the IAF implements its strategies and logistcics.
If the Balakot incident were any indication, the IAF is not a good shape at all.

I still feel there is lot of delusions of grandeur within the Indian Military and Public alike, they are simply living in a Bollywood dream. Or maybe the truth is just too frightening to accept.

Because 1 Rafale = 10 J-20 or 50 J-10C or 35 J-16. So when you do the maths, it's clear a Rafale is better... like 1 Su-30MKI = 100 JF-17 ... ohhhhhh wait no nevermind.
 
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