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Figaro

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When you are a soldier, you are there to fight for your nation, NOT for personal recognition. Soldiers are there to serve the nation and to maximize that effect by any means. If personal recognition is convenient for the country, then good; if it is not, then so be it their final service in death. The ultimate discipline and loyalty extends beyond the grave. Your nation can betray you (for benefit) but you may never betray your nation.
I understand but the Chinese must also look at the actions of the other side. If India did not announce or recognize its dead, perhaps China should not have done so either. But since India did this and China did not, now India has another PR card up their sleeves in the form of the Chinese are hiding their casualty count, which is technically true. Why do PLA soldiers who get killed in accidents get recognized but those killed by enemy action do not? Of course you serve the country, not for recognition, but when other soldiers die under different circumstances (e.g. plane crash), they get recognized by state media while if you die fighting India, you do not. This makes absolutely no sense to me at all.
 

plawolf

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I understand but the Chinese must also look at the actions of the other side. If India did not announce or recognize its dead, perhaps China should not have done so either. But since India did this and China did not, now India has another PR card up their sleeves in the form of the Chinese are hiding their casualty count, which is technically true. Why do PLA soldiers who get killed in accidents get recognized but those killed by enemy action do not? Of course you serve the country, not for recognition, but when other soldiers die under different circumstances (e.g. plane crash), they get recognized by state media while if you die fighting India, you do not. This makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

You are being incredibly naive if you think China officially announcing casualty figures would shut the Indians up. If official Chinese figures are not to their liking, the first thing they will do is say those numbers are fake with exactly the same ‘China hiding true casualty figures’ fake news BS being pumped out on an industrial scale.

Besides, PR victory is like the BS participation trophy. People who won the race doesn’t care about that silly consolation prize.

And not even the Western MSM is repeating Indian BS lies as they are obviously just that, lies. So what exactly have the Indians ‘win’ really?!
 

manqiangrexue

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I understand but the Chinese must also look at the actions of the other side. If India did not announce or recognize its dead, perhaps China should not have done so either. But since India did this and China did not, now India has another PR card up their sleeves in the form of the Chinese are hiding their casualty count, which is technically true. Why do PLA soldiers who get killed in accidents get recognized but those killed by enemy action do not? Of course you serve the country, not for recognition, but when other soldiers die under different circumstances (e.g. plane crash), they get recognized by state media while if you die fighting India, you do not. This makes absolutely no sense to me at all.
I don't analyze this nor their reasoning since the commanders who made the choice know far more than I do. If it were up to me, I would have held the 60 prisoners and kept adding to them until the conflict was over when I give the world a final count of their "martial race". I'd embarrass the Indians with videos, prisoner interviews, every chance I get to watch them squirm. I'd give the Indians an ultimate before I overrun all of their positions with overwhelming force. The CCP has not went that path. But I do know that there's no reason to compare what India did to what China should do. China doesn't follow India's actions and China is much stronger for it.
 

ougoah

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Wasn't it already been made clear by the usual CCP media mouthpieces ages ago that China lost 2 soldiers who succumbed to injuries after the June clash? Why are we assuming Hu Xijin is referring to them? The CCP also mentioned immediately after June clash that casualties were suffered on both sides with no details given at all. The Indians admitted officially to 20+ fatalities and countless captured and returned. The Indian numbers are just as withheld as Chinese ones. The Chinese admitted officially 1 or 2 with none captured. None captured is accurate since India never returned any like China did on many occasions nor did they issue any statement even hinting at this unlike Chinese side.

There might be more than the 1 or 2 PLA killed. That's been a given albeit denied by many on the internet.
 

siegecrossbow

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You are being incredibly naive if you think China officially announcing casualty figures would shut the Indians up. If official Chinese figures are not to their liking, the first thing they will do is say those numbers are fake with exactly the same ‘China hiding true casualty figures’ fake news BS being pumped out on an industrial scale.

Besides, PR victory is like the BS participation trophy. People who won the race doesn’t care about that silly consolation prize.

That’s right. To this day the Jai Hind crowd believe they’ve shot down a F-16 during the confrontation with Pakistan.
 

solarz

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I understand but the Chinese must also look at the actions of the other side. If India did not announce or recognize its dead, perhaps China should not have done so either. But since India did this and China did not, now India has another PR card up their sleeves in the form of the Chinese are hiding their casualty count, which is technically true. Why do PLA soldiers who get killed in accidents get recognized but those killed by enemy action do not? Of course you serve the country, not for recognition, but when other soldiers die under different circumstances (e.g. plane crash), they get recognized by state media while if you die fighting India, you do not. This makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

When was the last time you saw public announcements of Chinese peacekeeping force casualties?
 
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