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ansy1968

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ASEAN is the chinese backyard. Free media has shout it out!
@caudaceus even the powerful Vietnam is in agreement ...LOL. as part of ASEAN, the Chinese growth is a boon to us, the most to benefit is Vietnam less so the Philippines, We let our ideology guided us instead of economics and we are in a catch up mode since Duterte take office, now with RCEP, we will open our markets and here our oligarch and vested interest group will try to block it, but the writing is on the wall, the benefit is to great to ignore and they will submit grudgingly.
 

caudaceus

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@caudaceus even the powerful Vietnam is in agreement ...LOL. as part of ASEAN, the Chinese growth is a boon to us, the most to benefit is Vietnam less so the Philippines, We let our ideology guided us instead of economics and we are in a catch up mode since Duterte take office, now with RCEP, we will open our markets and here our oligarch and vested interest group will try to block it, but the writing is on the wall, the benefit is to great to ignore and they will submit grudgingly.
Problem is who will replace duterte next year? Strong possibility is someone that in US interest.
 

Jono

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I think at the strategic level, CCP is still hoping to work with India.

If you take the long term outlook, it is almost an absolute certainty that China will be the long pole in the tent in terms of GDP and technological output and growth after 2030.

US and EU (along with UK) is in decline, at differing speeds, but there is no access capacity to pull along developing countries.

And the LARGEST developing country is..... India.

India has much potential but it really need to get its shit together.
BTW, looks like he is wearing a Vuitton Tie.

China has much to offer India, but India needs to become a secular society that values science and technology more than spiritualism. It is a hard transition, as in some ways, it has to become less Indian.

I think China has more to offer India and would be on terms much better than the West. But India need to be less thrifty and accept sacrifices up front as the Chinese did in the 80's and 90's.

India suffer from the worst populist democracy where nothing gets done and a uniquely India short sightedness on their strategic planning and posture, going after every nickel and dime when every minute means millions. Pile on top of that an epic level of delusion and crackhead level of optimism, at this rate it is edging ever closer to GAME OVER with no reset button, real quick.

However, I really don't see the Indian elites making that epiphany until the decline of Western liberal order is complete, in about 10-15 years time. Unfortunately, by then automation and AI would have absorbed any low skill labor cost advantage India might momentarily enjoy. When that happens, India would have to have to wait another technological revolution at another chance to reach middle income, and that might be at least 50 to 100 years away, and the barrier to entry will be vastly higher than it is today. Once general intelligence AI is matured in 30+ years, then the value of human input would be marginal at best.

There will be NO population dividend, it will be a huge implosion.

Their ticket out of shithole-ville is already fast expiring. They are literally holding 1/2 a ticket as it is. In reality, they have a less than 10% chance of making the last train on the globalization low skilled labor express.

It's rather tragic to see 1.4+ billion people sunk to irrecoverable poverty for at least the next century.

Hate them or love them, I don't think CCP want to see a basketcase of fuckups of epic proportions next door, hence the restraint, hoping that there is still some real strategist in India.

By the recent awards by IA, the Chinese should abandon all hope and extend the great wall against the inevitable flood of refugees.
" By the recent awards by IA, the Chinese should abandon all hope and extend the great wall against the inevitable flood of refugees. "
fortunately the Himalayas is that insurmountable great wall.
China just managed to eradicate extreme poverty among its 1.4 billion citizens, so we absolutely don't fancy looking after another 1.4 billions, them being ungrateful and shameless and would bite the hands that feed them.
 

Kakyan

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No need. I've lost count how many times I've went through it.

Let me save everyone's time here. Let's go into your link:
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Step 1: Look into document link #2:
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You'll find this: FINAL AWARD RD 2021 TO BE ANNOUNCED ON 25 JAN 2021

Step 2: Open the PDF file. Use Ctrl+F to find any keyword from: IC-83988P CAPT SOIBA MANINGBA RANGNAMEI
Let's see what we have here:

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Only found one match. Page 9, #26 under MENTION-IN-DESPATCHES
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This is too easy! Your own Indian Army document is disproving your own lie! :eek:o_O
OMG, how much more pathetic can one get? LOL!
Even if it's an MiD, it is still higher in rank than the ordinary memento awarded by Manipur CM.
So your claim that he got higher award thanks to video is wrong.
 

Kakyan

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Let's hope it is true not just India agreeing to giving Kailash ranges but also the strategic parts of Depsang China's wanted.

India's ceasefire agreement with Pakistan after Pakistan unilaterally violated a previous ceasefire and got kills, should indicate India's now pliability.

Any party conceding does actually allow for better relations for all three. Perhaps India has realised with the internal turmoil that this is a decent time to concede quietly while it mobilises its disinfo IT Cell trolls and global fake news network (EU verified).
Since India-Pakistan LoC clashes started in 2016, Pakistan has dared to give military casualties for only two years (2016 and 2017).
In 2016 they admitted 27 Pakistani military killed on Loc and India had only 17 military casualties that same year.
In 2017 they admitted 34 military casualties and India had only 29 such casualties that year.

Fron 2018 onwards Pakistan did not even dare to give their militart casualty numbers on LoC.
 

Kakyan

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In 2021- Total number of Indian security forces killed by ISI backed insurgents in Kashmir is 4.

In 2021- Total number of Pakistani security forces killed by Indian RAW backed insurgents in Waziristan and Balochistan is 31.

This itself shows who has upper hand.

No wonder Pakistan was pleading for a temporary ceasefire.
 

MwRYum

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@caudaceus even the powerful Vietnam is in agreement ...LOL. as part of ASEAN, the Chinese growth is a boon to us, the most to benefit is Vietnam less so the Philippines, We let our ideology guided us instead of economics and we are in a catch up mode since Duterte take office, now with RCEP, we will open our markets and here our oligarch and vested interest group will try to block it, but the writing is on the wall, the benefit is to great to ignore and they will submit grudgingly.
Surprising is that they actually let Duterte live, and he is looking at finishing his full term in office instead of "cut short" by an assassin's bullet, as we know political assassinations isn't that rare in the Philippines.
ASEAN is the chinese backyard. Free media has shout it out!
No wonder The Economist pissed off Singapore so many times in the past...
 

ansy1968

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Problem is who will replace duterte next year? Strong possibility is someone that in US interest.
@caudaceus that is the sixty million dollar question? right now everybody is holding their cards close to their chest and trying to telegraph each other moved. All possible candidates learn from Duterte from the last election, they don't want to declare their candidacy early and risk being ganged upon by the opposition. So I will give you the possible contenders .

1) The American and the oligarch prefer candidates is GRACE POE, yes you heard that right Leni Robredo, you're being thrown under the bus because you're a liability to them. If the Senate election is a guide her second place is great gauge of her chances of winning the election and she has the experience placing third behind Duterte and Roxas during the last presidential election. Her weakness, she is a known TRAPO (traditional politician) and an advocate of indecisiveness, talking big but doing nothing , not wanting to aggravate anybody. Her only claim to success is being the adopted child of the Philippine acclaim actor Fernando Poe Jr who is loved by the masses. her chances 50:50 (very strong in Metro manila, Central luzon and certain part of the visayas and Mindanao)

2) PANFILO LACSON is a political butterfly and like Trump is a Narcissist, he is shrewd can make decisive decision and is strict like Duterte. He is very adapt and may follow Duterte independent foreign policy if suited his agenda. His only drawback because of his shrewdness he make a lot of enemies and considered an unreliable candidates by the American. chances 55:45 (very strong in MM, Northern and Southern Luzon, Mindanao and Central visayas)

3) Cynthia Villar the richest person in the Senate and also married to one of the richest man in the Philippines MANNY VILLAR. allied to Duterte but lack the charisma, can't connect with the masses, top the Senate election all due to Duterte magic, if she get the endorsement she definitely win the election. chances (40:60, if endorse 65:35)

4) Bong Bong Marcos the son of the late president Ferdinand Marcos, that name recognition alone spark admiration and hatred among his supporters and detractors. He distinguish himself as a notable politician with a nationalistic view, A Duterte ally , his chance of winning is very high the problem if elected the divisiveness for the country will return due to his family past history. Chances 65:35 (very strong in Northern Luzon, the entire visayas region and also Mindanao where he is cheated by Leni Robredo).

5) need to mention her out of respect for the position she holds. Leni Robredo chances very slim. 10:90 strong mostly in Metro Manila and a potion of the Bicol region.

6) Now there is a one sure win candidate that even Duterte is afraid of and is dissuading her not to run, I give you a clue her surname is a CARPIO,

Now all of the candidates will lose if Duterte decided to run or endorse his prefer candidate, so he hold the key, that is why everybody is quiet trying to ascertain what others and Duterte will do. Will they attack Duterte policy? especially his China pivot? Leni Robredo go for broke and did just that and suffered the consequences.

And there is a tradition in running for the presidency, you select your VP from the region of your weakness so that person will carry your candidacy, my country politics is based on regionalism, if your father is from Northern Luzon and your mother is from Central Visayas you had both region support even though you was born in Metro Manila. Only Duterte transcend that , he is special because people from the other regions considered him as one of their own.
 

Xizor

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I am honestly wonder what's the future of Quad. Seems after Trump and Abe gone it lost its mojo.
I'm still amused that geopolitic subreddit was hyping that the Asian NATO from Quad would be formed before the election.
The Quad isn't the be all regarding an alliance to confront China. As long as the factors that created Quad exists, the idea of Quad will remain.

So, Quad will not fizzle out.
 

ansy1968

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Surprising is that they actually let Duterte live, and he is looking at finishing his full term in office instead of "cut short" by an assassin's bullet, as we know political assassinations isn't that rare in the Philippines.

No wonder The Economist pissed off Singapore so many times in the past...
@MwRYum He is very shrewd and a brilliant strategies, He won by a landslide, Smartmatic the system provider can't cheap his vote cause he had a huge lead. They had a PLAN B though and that is to replace him as President by his VP Leni Robredo who cheated her way with the help of US AMB GOLDBERG. He then pen a plan to oust Duterte by a People Power revolution (which the Colored Revolution get its inspiration) but was thwarted by Duterte. His first act as president is to increase the soldier and policeman salary by 100% . :cool: having secure the AFP support he then launch his populist program which benefit the very poor in our society. But his major savior is Trump, without him ,he may not survive his term, as we know that the US had a history of killing nationalistic leaders that is against their policy.
 
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