Ladakh Flash Point

Inst said:

Tibet, I'll also point out, is strategically crucial to both China and India. Whoever holds Tibet has the upper hand; DF-21s based from Tibet can shell Indian airbases and cities from behind the mountain borders, while Indian T-90s based in Tibet could do a rerun of the Tibetan sacking of Chang'an during the Tang Dynasty.

Tibet is the strategic high ground. As long as China can hold and defend Tibet, China has a tremendous advantage over India. From Tibet, China can use DF-26s to shut down the entire InN. If the reverse were true, the implication would also be inverted.

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Temstar said:

DF-26B placed on the Tibetan Plateau means the vast majority of the Indian Ocean is no longer safe for INS Vikramaditya or any future Indian carriers. Who knows how many decades in the future it would be before Indians could present a credible defence against AShBM.

In fact in the event of large scale conflict between India and China I would say it would be a good idea to strike at India's lone carrier with DF-26B as soon as Indian navy show any signs of attempting to interfere with shipping through the Indian ocean. This would have the dual benefit of taking the flagship off the table and demoralise the fleet, as well as further demonstrate the credible threat of AShBM.

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discspinner said:

and risk nuclear war by sending ballistic missiles over the Indian mainland

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plawolf said:

Geography means India cannot hold Tibet against China, its as simple as that.

The PLA has any number of routines of advance into Tibet while India will have only a few narrow and hard to navigate mountain roads that are closed by weather a lot of the time.

It’s just a silly Indian wet dream to have dominion over Tibet. They might as well wet dream of taking over North America since the odds of it happening are about the same.

Indian obsession with Alaska Chin is because they see that as their toe hold into potentially taking over Tibet, but it’s really a stupid impossible dream for the reasons mentioned above.

That’s why their entire boarder dispute with China is just retarded at the conceptual level. They are keeping the boarder dispute alive because of them lusting over an otherwise strategically worthless piece of Chinese territory because they harbour idiotic ambitions to try to use that as a springboard to snatch a far bigger and even more indefensible piece of Chinese territory.

It betrays both the epic hubris of the Indian ruling elite as well as their disgusting territorial avarice and rampant expansionist nature.

Basically it looks to me like modern India is trying to behave like the British Empire in all the worst ways ranging from state-led racism, to snobbish high handed arrogance, right down to the rampaging and insatiable greed. Luckily (for themselves and the world), their greed and arrogance is matched and exceeded by their own sheer incompetence. Thus, despite all their best efforts, they have achieve so pathetically little of their ambitions as to not even register on most people’s and world powers’ radars.

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Bright Sword said:

Unfortunately the choice of a nuclear war depends on how irrational one of the belligerents in a conflict is.
A nuclear exchange in South Asia can happen under these two broad scenarios;
1. An Indo-Pak conflict where Pakistan looses on the conventional front and resorts to tactical nuclear weapons to destroy an Indian occupation force. India escalates with a full fledged city busting population destruction
centric attack. Pakistan responds.
2. India destroys or chokes China's overland ( CPEC) and maritime supply routes ( Malacca Straits) in a conventional Western ally backed campaign. China responds with first conventional and then nuclear cruise and missile attacks. India escalates with a ballistic missile attack.
3. In a first strike India launches a 300 strong Brahmos missile attack on PLA Western Theatre Command assets hoping that China will not escalate. Despite a no first use doctrine China escalates with a devastating theater ballistic and ALCM attack with tactical nuclear weapons.

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Bright Sword said:

Unfortunately the choice of a nuclear war depends on how irrational one of the belligerents in a conflict is.
A nuclear exchange in South Asia can happen under these two broad scenarios;
1. An Indo-Pak conflict where Pakistan looses on the conventional front and resorts to tactical nuclear weapons to destroy an Indian occupation force. India escalates with a full fledged city busting population destruction
centric attack. Pakistan responds.
2. India destroys or chokes China's overland ( CPEC) and maritime supply routes ( Malacca Straits) in a conventional Western ally backed campaign. China responds with first conventional and then nuclear cruise and missile attacks. India escalates with a ballistic missile attack.
3. In a first strike India launches a 300 strong Brahmos missile attack on PLA Western Theatre Command assets hoping that China will not escalate. Despite a no first use doctrine China escalates with a devastating theater ballistic and ALCM attack with tactical nuclear weapons.

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Bright Sword said:

Unfortunately the choice of a nuclear war depends on how irrational one of the belligerents in a conflict is.
A nuclear exchange in South Asia can happen under these two broad scenarios;
1. An Indo-Pak conflict where Pakistan looses on the conventional front and resorts to tactical nuclear weapons to destroy an Indian occupation force. India escalates with a full fledged city busting population destruction
centric attack. Pakistan responds.
2. India destroys or chokes China's overland ( CPEC) and maritime supply routes ( Malacca Straits) in a conventional Western ally backed campaign. China responds with first conventional and then nuclear cruise and missile attacks. India escalates with a ballistic missile attack.
3. In a first strike India launches a 300 strong Brahmos missile attack on PLA Western Theatre Command assets hoping that China will not escalate. Despite a no first use doctrine China escalates with a devastating theater ballistic and ALCM attack with tactical nuclear weapons.

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