Ladakh Flash Point


Sardaukar20

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Well the myopic ones now totally manifested with hatred are firstly doing themselves massive disservice for fooling self. They are also setting themselves up for the same evil... one that lies for you in times of convenience will one day lie against you. It is a virtue to try and refrain from aligning your own person with forces of malevolence when they suit your agendas. But people are obviously hurting. Indians did come out of centuries of being mistreated and have had their status and wealth destroyed and robbed. Just not be us. We've done literally next to nothing to them even during our worst phases in the 20th century. A lot of the online trolls are actually BJP supported/financed and they are obvious. The rest are just hurting and the western narratives are effective at directing all the hate to Chinese people. Oh well. There are greater things in life to aspire to and work towards.

For the same lies that China is falling prey to, they themselves can easily times 100. That devil just hasn't directed much if any attention on them. Reasonable Indians have long understood all this but China India relations have diminished so much since the 2000s and they weren't great to begin with. It's just a shame Asians are kept in this sort of us and them (free vs evil commies) thinking paradigm by those engaged in information and psychological warfare. Whatever for China though. Got enough nukes for those bastards in the west if they kick the door down and got enough people and wealth to go along without them already. A period of animosity could be weathered without losing sight of what matters. Indian trolls working feverishly on helping that devil are setting their own futures up in its pit. I'm not saying China is perfect and their leaders always virtuous and decent but wrt the geopol, China is in the struggle of its life and soul. If it comes out on top with the right to self determination and government, hopefully it would stand for a better future where the world isn't kept in the western false morality cycle where the poor are condemned to be their slaves and charity cases without ever finding the real means to rise. Meanwhile the agenda is to keep the "other" in perpetual conflict. Both sides here have actually remained sensible wrt escalating.
It is truly unfortunate that the world is indeed divided into free vs evil commies. Too many are deluding themselves that China is below them, and should stay down there. I believe that Sinophobia goes beyond the Red Scare. Its real roots is in white-supremacy racism itself. For non-White racists, they were manipulated into thinking themselves are closer to Whites than the Chinese just by being in the 'Democracy club' with the White democracies at the top. Hence, I think it does not matter if China is ruled by a CPC or a multi-party democracy. The hate will continue, because it goes against the narrative that a 'white nation' must be the #1. If it was really about Red Scare. Why is a white Free-Tibet supporter in America able to tell a Korean-American to "go back to Communist China"? Why are citizen ethnic Chinese targeted in pogroms in democracies like the USA, Indonesia, Malaysia, and India? Why does a US senator say that China has 5000 year history of cheating and stealing? Why do Jai Hinds say that China is a 'new' country?

Karma have already started hitting these those who are malicious against China. All those 'democracies' who had condemned, ridiculed, and outright slander China are experiencing the full brunt of pandemic disaster and economic meltdown. But there is also a vicious cycle, they are blaming China for their woes than owning up for their own failings. So Sinophobia is accelerating around the 'free world'. Thanks to powerful Western propaganda machinery, the masses of the 'free-world' are jumping onboard the China-hate bandwagon.

One such example is India. It won't be a surprise to many members in this forum. But it is shocking for many innocent Chinese citizens that a great many Indians (especially the urban ones) actually think that India is miles ahead of China in modernization. It has been taught in schools and propagated through the Indian media that China is a backwards and poor communist country. This created a culture of Indian 'superiority' over the Chinese. I guess this is the genesis of the Jai Hinds. But why is China richer than India then? Must be an evil commie thing! So when the free-world is in anti-China fever, India only is too happy to join. When Covid-19 appeared in China, many Jai Hinds were celebrating this. They were promoting this as India's opportunity to overtake China.
Worse still, India took this opportunity of 'Chinese weakness' to attempt a landgrab at the border with China. Then the rest is history. I think the deliberate murder of unarmed PLA soldiers is probably something related to racist motivations. Perhaps the Indian Army wanted to bully-down the 'wimpy-single-child' Chinese soldiers. Instead, they've got what they deserved, and India went into full-blown Sinophobia after that.

At this very pivotal time when the center of gravity is pivoting towards the East. China was there, willing to help India to ascend as a fellow Asian brother. But India had chosen the West instead of the East. Alas this Indian misplaced sense of racial superiority is proving too difficult to overcome. India had promised to the world too many times that it'll compete, and then overtake China. But evidence is mounting that India can never deliver on these promises. Now India is doubling down on buying Western scams left, right, and center. It would be an interesting time to watch India in the coming years.
 

Mohsin77

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We have DFI members on here watching and reporting this forum back to their DFI.

I didn't know what "DFI" was and I just googled it.... wow. That's a hilarious place. I just clicked on a thread about Pakistan and it was just pages after pages of anti-Islam rhetoric and ethnic slurs:

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The best part is the poster's avatar... I wanna focus in on this gem:
 
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Sardaukar20

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By the definitions the Jai Hind use for Xinjiang groups and other volatile elements in China and Pakistan, these are "Freedom Fighters".

Many in Indian forums have frothed at their mouth on HK riots, Pakistan(Baloch) terrorism and even the slightest possibility of Tibetan volatility.
But when there are protests and rebels in India. Jai Hinds are calling them terrorists. When foreigners spoke out to support the farmer protesters, the Jai Hinds named them enemies of India. This pretty much sums up the integrity of Jai Hinds.
 

ougoah

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I didn't know what "DFI" was and I just googled it.... wow. That's a hilarious place. I just clicked on a thread about Pakistan and it was just pages after pages of anti-Islam rhetoric and ethnic slurs:

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The best part is the poster's avatar... I wanna focus in on this gem:

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^ this self-image basically sums it all up... Is it a "he" or a "she"? Is it going to fight, or is it gonna start pole-dancing? All bets are off.

I will warn you against those cesspits. While there are decent and sensible folks there, they are far and few between. It'll rob you of your decency if you dwell there too long. It's mostly ethnic slurs, racism that would make the Nazis say "umm but..." and piles upon piles of false information given a new twist with every lowlife it passes. Some of them are too far gone and thoroughly forsaken. Can see where the attitudes come from ... you know the types of Hindu extremists/exceptionalists who make other people (Indians!) drink from their shoes, whip "misbehaving" other classes etc. Can really see how that develops.
 

jfy1155

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I didn't know what "DFI" was and I just googled it.... wow. That's a hilarious place. I just clicked on a thread about Pakistan and it was just pages after pages of anti-Islam rhetoric and ethnic slurs:

View attachment 70734

The best part is the poster's avatar... I wanna focus in on this gem:

View attachment 70736

^ this self-image basically sums it all up... Is it a "he" or a "she"? Is it going to fight, or is it gonna start pole-dancing? All bets are off.
You are famous there too. They posted your comment there.
 

4Runner

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It is truly unfortunate that the world is indeed divided into free vs evil commies. Too many are deluding themselves that China is below them, and should stay down there. I believe that Sinophobia goes beyond the Red Scare. Its real roots is in white-supremacy racism itself. For non-White racists, they were manipulated into thinking themselves are closer to Whites than the Chinese just by being in the 'Democracy club' with the White democracies at the top. Hence, I think it does not matter if China is ruled by a CPC or a multi-party democracy. The hate will continue, because it goes against the narrative that a 'white nation' must be the #1. If it was really about Red Scare. Why is a white Free-Tibet supporter in America able to tell a Korean-American to "go back to Communist China"? Why are citizen ethnic Chinese targeted in pogroms in democracies like the USA, Indonesia, Malaysia, and India? Why does a US senator say that China has 5000 year history of cheating and stealing? Why do Jai Hinds say that China is a 'new' country?

Karma have already started hitting these those who are malicious against China. All those 'democracies' who had condemned, ridiculed, and outright slander China are experiencing the full brunt of pandemic disaster and economic meltdown. But there is also a vicious cycle, they are blaming China for their woes than owning up for their own failings. So Sinophobia is accelerating around the 'free world'. Thanks to powerful Western propaganda machinery, the masses of the 'free-world' are jumping onboard the China-hate bandwagon.

One such example is India. It won't be a surprise to many members in this forum. But it is shocking for many innocent Chinese citizens that a great many Indians (especially the urban ones) actually think that India is miles ahead of China in modernization. It has been taught in schools and propagated through the Indian media that China is a backwards and poor communist country. This created a culture of Indian 'superiority' over the Chinese. I guess this is the genesis of the Jai Hinds. But why is China richer than India then? Must be an evil commie thing! So when the free-world is in anti-China fever, India only is too happy to join. When Covid-19 appeared in China, many Jai Hinds were celebrating this. They were promoting this as India's opportunity to overtake China.
Worse still, India took this opportunity of 'Chinese weakness' to attempt a landgrab at the border with China. Then the rest is history. I think the deliberate murder of unarmed PLA soldiers is probably something related to racist motivations. Perhaps the Indian Army wanted to bully-down the 'wimpy-single-child' Chinese soldiers. Instead, they've got what they deserved, and India went into full-blown Sinophobia after that.

At this very pivotal time when the center of gravity is pivoting towards the East. China was there, willing to help India to ascend as a fellow Asian brother. But India had chosen the West instead of the East. Alas this Indian misplaced sense of racial superiority is proving too difficult to overcome. India had promised to the world too many times that it'll compete, and then overtake China. But evidence is mounting that India can never deliver on these promises. Now India is doubling down on buying Western scams left, right, and center. It would be an interesting time to watch India in the coming years.
Like the standup comedian Ron White once said: "You can not fix stupid". Majority of people are uninformed. Some are just plain stupid. And they are the treasure trove to all politicians. The #1 reason Chinese have less of that disease is due to the struggle of last 200 years. That experience shattered Chinese illusion genetically. So today's Chinese are brutally pragmatic. And the rest of the world seem to be hard to catch up with that cruel reality.
 

ougoah

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Looks like India is still going to refuse to vacate dispute and China won't leave because India won't leave. The question is would India leave if China leaves?? I VERY much doubt that! China would leave if India does and just like Pangong, make the other disputed sections a total buffer. This serves China's aim to secure Aksai Chin to a greater degree than it's ever been secured and to ensure no chance for violent clashes. Any further violence and meeting of troops after full buffer is served would be CLEAR escalation to war as opposed to previous state of "hey you're in my CLAIMED land so please go back" and when they don't it's a pushing and shouting match.

Many around the internet still interpret the current situation of standoff as Chinese held upper hand when it is India here holding the momentum because China is in a response position with these talks now. China achieved Pangong buffer after occupying and forcing Indian agreement but India refuses to make that the situation elsewhere and insists on at least settling up in the rest of the dispute.

This is EXACTLY the same effect as PLA settling in F4 to F8. India has been occupying other parts of the dispute just like PLA occupied F4 to F8. The question is will China escalate or be happy with this status quo change. Except there's no headless chicken panic of saying abc and xyz contradictions all day like a manic from China. India is OCCUPYING Chinese claimed lands the same way PLA occupied Indian claimed lands and sorted it into a buffer finally. Remains to be seen whether India will concede or China will escalate. I doubt China will escalate as long as India doesn't push to blue line but also won't remove PLA.
 

Sardaukar20

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How is that Quad partnership with the US going? Now Uncle Sam wanna challenge India's 'excessive maritime claims'. LOL you guys are gonna be the best of buddies.

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Then some Indian analysts goes on RT and starts writing an article about Indian-Russian 'friendship'.

While there is a perception of divergence between the two sides due to their respective global strategic compulsions, India needs Russia and vice-versa and the ‘special and privileged strategic partnership’ is not fading away.
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, and Russia has been willing to hear out India’s geopolitical perspectives and dilemmas despite having a joint front with China in standing up to the West.
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So let me get this straight. This is probably how the writer is presenting this. Russia should not worry about India getting closer to the US. Russia will not get closer to China because of India. Russia will listen to India's concerns about selling arms to Pakistan. Russia will take care of India's interest concerning Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran.

So basically, he means that Russia should not question India's quest to get closer to the US and the Quad. Nevermind that Russia's sworn enemies, the US, and Japan are among them. But Russia must listen to India's concerns about getting closer to China, Pakistan, Iran, etc.

LOL. Is this India-Russia friendship a one-way relationship? Who the hell does India think it is? We we thought that US FONOP into India's own claimed waters should have sobered them up. Well who are we kidding? Jai Hinds are never sober.
 

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