I wonder what makes JF-17 so more cheap than J-10?
What would be more easy to turn in a low observable, stealth, aircracft?
Jf-17 or J10?
It has less capability all around, so it is cheaper by this virtue.
Azerbaijan and Sudan have only expressed interest and are negotiating. They haven't placed confirmed orders yet.JF-17 has attracted 3 customers in less than a year. That is nothing compared to how long it took to attract customers for other fighters. The JF-17 is just getting started. There is HUGE demand in the world for low-cost fighters. And low-cost does not mean $40 million/piece.
could u please shed some light on your comment less capable to what.
American spend 40million dollars to develop a pen that can write upside down Russian did it for 2 cents (they used a pencil)my point is simple just cause one isn't costing 100million dollars don't mean its just not worth it.
labor cost in Western countries could run up to 50/hr and obviously that will effect the end cost to sell.i doubt Chinese or Pakistani manufacturing place will have such a high cost of just labor alone.
most defense contractors are in private hands so making as much profit as possible also effects the price.if one was to keep all these factors in mind and then discus the item what it can or cant do.:nono:
So 3 countries have already purchased or entered into negotiations to purchase the aircraft in its first year. Like I said, thats nothing compared to long it takes other fighters to generate substantive interest.Azerbaijan and Sudan have only expressed interest and are negotiating. They haven't placed confirmed orders yet.
Well sure, if you assume away everything then of course, you are absolutely correct.As I said, those 7 year old figures of $10-15 million must have probably escalated now...
I think you too are guessing and don't have latest figures. It's hard to believe that a transonic Hawk trainer costs nearly $10 million more than any FC-1 variant. That figure too is without weapons.
My estimate of a non-weaponised FC-1's cost is $25+ million. Add to that a plummeting dollar, and it will gradually approach $30 m.
Speaking of PAF, it doesn't have much choice after truncating their purchase of F-16 and plans to induct only a few J-10s (if at all). This is the only fighter that they have to boost their capabilities, and I agree they're trying very hard. From South African T Darters to Italian AESA radars, PAF wants it to be as lethal as possible.
your argument doesn't apply here since the same factory designs and builds J-10 + JF-17. That's why I have mentioned the idea of China price for JF-17 and PAF price for JF-17.could u please shed some light on your comment less capable to what.
American spend 40million dollars to develop a pen that can write upside down Russian did it for 2 cents (they used a pencil)my point is simple just cause one isn't costing 100million dollars don't mean its just not worth it.
labor cost in Western countries could run up to 50/hr and obviously that will effect the end cost to sell.i doubt Chinese or Pakistani manufacturing place will have such a high cost of just labor alone.
most defense contractors are in private hands so making as much profit as possible also effects the price.if one was to keep all these factors in mind and then discus the item what it can or cant do.
Mig-29 simply cannot compete with that.
Based on this and what you said earlier about J-7, it seems that PLAAF gets a highly subsidized price for J-10 and FC-1. But I'm talking about FC-1's market /export price, which cannot be lesser than small Hawk trainers.the main avionics developer for J-10 said in an interview that each J-10 costs 200 million RMB. And JF-17 is believed to cost 1/2 of a J-10. You can believe what you want to believe, but that's how it is. Based on what China pays for J-10 and the expected export price, it seems like they put a 50% premium on the export at least.