J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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Nothing really to discuss. It comes down to "are we getting any more corroboration of this rumor"? It is extremely optimistic for China that they slapped on the TVC, but there's no substantiation, we haven't heard any rumors from any sources about actual TVC development on the J-20B other than the sketches we got after the J-10C TVC was tested.
 

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Ah, great, here we go. We're going to spend the next 10 pages discussing Minnie Chan trash.


May I ask why you "disliked" my comment with :mad: while at the same time add " We're going to spend the next 10 pages discussing Minnie Chan trash"? Since it is nothing but trash!
 

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May I ask why you "disliked" my comment with :mad: while at the same time add " We're going to spend the next 10 pages discussing Minnie Chan trash"? Since it is nothing but trash!
The emoji my reaction any time Minnie Chan's name gets brought up. The "10 pages" thing was my reaction to the "if Minnie Chan's garbage is true then..." conversation that was starting between @Inst and @ougoah.

This forum's emoji system is quite limited and its meaning comes across ambiguously. For instance, I use the laugh emoji in different cases to laugh with and laugh at the poster. In this case, you could say I'm angry with you that Minnie Chan stuff got posted.
Need a new rule in forum. Anyone that posts Minnie chan, David axe, Dave Majumdar etcs. Will automatically get a 1 week vacation.
One can dream.
 

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The emoji my reaction any time Minnie Chan's name gets brought up. The "10 pages" thing was my reaction to the "if Minnie Chan's garbage is true then..." conversation that was starting between @Inst and @ougoah.

This forum's emoji system is quite limited and its meaning comes across ambiguously. For instance, I use the laugh emoji in different cases to laugh with and laugh at the poster. In this case, you could say I'm angry with you that Minnie Chan stuff got posted.

One can dream.


Thanks for your kind reply and explanation ... I was only surprised and misread as an agreement with her post!
 

Inst

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I don't see the fundamental problem with the claims, except that the reporter has made questionable comments in the past. It's plausible that the Chinese rushed TVC for the J-20 since other modifications to the J-20A require the WS-15. Doing the TVC now would allow the Chinese to master the tweaking of the flight control system before the WS-15 is ready, and TVC would add to the J-20's capabilities even if it adds weight.

The only problem is that it comes from Minnie Chain, so the claim can't be trusted without further verification.
 

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China’s stealth fighter goes into mass production after thrust upgrade
  • The J-20B has overcome agility problems to finally be considered a fully fledged fifth-generation fighter, military source says
  • Aircraft still will be fitted with Russian engine but ‘Chinese version could be ready in a year or two’
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I think they can duplicate Su-35's engine which they have. J-20 will get major power boost + 3D TVC.
 

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I don't see the fundamental problem with the claims, except that the reporter has made questionable comments in the past. It's plausible that the Chinese rushed TVC for the J-20 since other modifications to the J-20A require the WS-15. Doing the TVC now would allow the Chinese to master the tweaking of the flight control system before the WS-15 is ready, and TVC would add to the J-20's capabilities even if it adds weight.

The only problem is that it comes from Minnie Chain, so the claim can't be trusted without further verification.


No, and in fact I'm even more surprised that you support your BS!


Sorry to say so, but either she was bored again or I don't know what again she smoked!
smokin


May I ask how these contradictions fit together?

- again based on her "unknown source close to..."
- we know since mid-2019 that no J-20 has been built with AL-31FN but are usung WS-10C since then and she tells us they are using still Russian AL-31FNs?!!
- why a TVC-AL-31FN if the WS-10B-3 was demonstrated in Zhuhai 2018 already?
- already in 2018 she noted the J-20 is using the WS-10B (which also was wrong then:
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- and even earlier she mentioned the J-20 would already use serial WS-15s.
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That all does not fit and contradicts all we know.

I think they can duplicate Su-35's engine which they have. J-20 will get major power boost + 3D TVC.


Simply NO!
 
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