Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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Crang said:
Honestly the problem I have with Biden is that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Previously you had Trump who was obviously a wolf in wolf's clothing. Now the wolf in sheep's clothing is going to fool a lot of people.
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Does not matter.

There is really no expectations things will improve.

The main goal is not to have things deteriorate even more between the United States and China.

If the non-violent fighting does not increase, then that is great.

China should keep on trying to damage Americans interests worldwide, never stop that.

The United States went out of its way to provoke China, and has made no attempts or indication it will stop these provocative actions.

China will strike back even harder against the Biden administration, because the Liberals are far worst than those conservatives.
 
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Does not matter.

There is really no expectations things will improve.

The main goal is not to have things deteriorate even more between the United States and China.

If the non-violent fighting does not increase, then that is great.

China should keep on trying to damage Americans interests worldwide, never stop that.

The United States went out of its way to provoke China, and has made no attempts or indication it will stop these provocative actions.

China will strike back even harder against the Biden administration, because the Liberals are far worst than those conservatives.
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Damn straight, there are so many red flags in the USA that it is not funny right now.
 
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Crang said:
Honestly the problem I have with Biden is that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Previously you had Trump who was obviously a wolf in wolf's clothing. Now the wolf in sheep's clothing is going to fool a lot of people.
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I always said that do not expect relations to improve under Biden. He’s not going to roll back most of Trump’s action against China.

The areas China and US are competing with are not negotiable.

Climate change is the exception. But even here the US is looking out for its own interests. A warming world hurts America and strengthens Russia as vast swathes of land in Siberia is opened up for Russian developments. Russia food production and GDP increases 5x by 2080 as the world warms; making Russia a superpower!
 
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I always said that do not expect relations to improve under Biden. He’s not going to roll back most of Trump’s action against China.

The areas China and US are competing with are not negotiable.
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Right.. guys of course nothing gonna change... both China and America are in the fight of their lifetime... and everything else is trivial lip service compared to the bigger picture...

My dad just got canned yesterday (ironic date) but he was already gonna retire in a few more months anyway... He did R&D for a US Fortune 100 and been with the same company nearly 25 years.... they disabled his badge while he went out for lunch and didnt tell him whats going on, then he got a security guard from the other entrance escort him in office/lab after getting locked out after lunch then he finds out his laptop was gone and thought it was lost/stolen only then to be ushered into HR director office asked to sign psperwork in exchange for a severance and they walked him out immediately like he was a criminal after nearly 3 decades of service...

I hate to say this obvious thing but ethnic Chinese in America are going to get the shaft from the US China cold war...

Lots of my Chinese friends are still naive and think Biden is going to return us back to normal, I try to tell them about US 5th Gen war and potus is just PR but they dont get it...

If you are Chinese ethnicity in America, citizenship or not, and you in STEM, r&d, IT, fintech, etc you are screwed... get ready to get shafted by Uncle Sam
 
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Petrolicious88 said:
Climate change is the exception. But even here the US is looking out for its own interests. A warming world hurts America and strengthens Russia as vast swathes of land in Siberia is opened up for Russian developments. Russia food production and GDP increases 5x by 2080 as the world warms; making Russia a superpower!
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No need for exaggeration.

There is no way Russia is going to increase food production or GDP by 5x
 
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quantumlight said:
Right.. guys of course nothing gonna change... both China and America are in the fight of their lifetime... and everything else is trivial lip service compared to the bigger picture...

My dad just got canned yesterday (ironic date) but he was already gonna retire in a few more months anyway... He did R&D for a US Fortune 100 and been with the same company nearly 25 years.... they disabled his badge while he went out for lunch and didnt tell him whats going on, then he got a security guard from the other entrance escort him in office/lab after getting locked out after lunch then he finds out his laptop was gone and thought it was lost/stolen only then to be ushered into HR director office asked to sign psperwork in exchange for a severance and they walked him out immediately like he was a criminal after nearly 3 decades of service...

I hate to say this obvious thing but ethnic Chinese in America are going to get the shaft from the US China cold war...

Lots of my Chinese friends are still naive and think Biden is going to return us back to normal, I try to tell them about US 5th Gen war and potus is just PR but they dont get it...

If you are Chinese ethnicity in America, citizenship or not, and you in STEM, r&d, IT, fintech, etc you are screwed... get ready to get shafted by Uncle Sam
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Time to get out?

I would suggest somewhere like Singapore or Europe, as these places are more neutral/friendly whilst still offering high-income jobs.
 
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Right.. guys of course nothing gonna change... both China and America are in the fight of their lifetime... and everything else is trivial lip service compared to the bigger picture...

My dad just got canned yesterday (ironic date) but he was already gonna retire in a few more months anyway... He did R&D for a US Fortune 100 and been with the same company nearly 25 years.... they disabled his badge while he went out for lunch and didnt tell him whats going on, then he got a security guard from the other entrance escort him in office/lab after getting locked out after lunch then he finds out his laptop was gone and thought it was lost/stolen only then to be ushered into HR director office asked to sign psperwork in exchange for a severance and they walked him out immediately like he was a criminal after nearly 3 decades of service...

I hate to say this obvious thing but ethnic Chinese in America are going to get the shaft from the US China cold war...

Lots of my Chinese friends are still naive and think Biden is going to return us back to normal, I try to tell them about US 5th Gen war and potus is just PR but they dont get it...

If you are Chinese ethnicity in America, citizenship or not, and you in STEM, r&d, IT, fintech, etc you are screwed... get ready to get shafted by Uncle Sam
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This is gonna be the greatest fight of the century, and will last well after we are dead and likely stretch into the 22nd century. Any potential improvements under Biden (which I doubt) would be quickly undone by the next administration and the general power clash between peer western and non-western nations.

A cold war is not all that bad though, it forces all countries involved to devote ever more resources into R&D and industrial developments. Our lives would not be as comfortable nor would we have an understanding of the world and science that we do had it not been for the advances made in WWII and the subsequent cold war.

For one, we will likely see an acceleration to towards the roboticization of all aspects of Chinese life and society by 2030.
 
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Time to get out?

I would suggest somewhere like Singapore or Europe, as these places are more neutral/friendly whilst still offering high-income jobs.
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Well my parents are too old to move and dont see returning to China as viable or pratical...

As for me, in my 30s, Im at the age my parents were at when they migrated to US for the Amerikkkan dream... so depending how it goes, certainly I might want to keep my options open

So I work in IT for oil company, and now they took away a lot of my rights, access responsibilites etc... taken me off info security projects etc... the writing is on the wall but Im still getting paid good monies for basically doing nothing... cant last forever, wont last long, but I'll ride the gravy train until Im given the boot... easiest job I ever worked, but its the calm before the storm... as Biden said, the Dark Winter is coming..
 
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No need for exaggeration.

There is no way Russia is going to increase food production or GDP by 5x
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By 2080, yes it can. Russia’s two problems are lack of arable land in the Far East due to permafrost, and lack of man power.

A warming planet solves both problems. In the next few decades after 2050 we are going to see mass migration of people from Mexico, United States into Canada, and from China, south East asia into Russia.

Russia is going to become a superpower in terms of food production. Its GDP will be 5x current levels by 2080- 2100.
 
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No need for exaggeration.

There is no way Russia is going to increase food production or GDP by 5x
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By 2080, yes it can. Russia’s two problems are lack of arable land in the Far East due to permafrost, and lack of man power.

A warming planet solves both problems. In the next few decades after 2050 we are going to see mass migration of people from Mexico, United States into Canada, and from China, south East asia into Russia.

Russia is going to become a superpower in terms of food production. Its GDP will be 5x current levels by 2080- 2100.
 
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