Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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horse

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Pretty sure he's a Jai Hind!

This is the problem it seems with those types of posters.

They have been conditioned so much from the Liberal media, that their entire view of the world is warped.

In their world, there are only one-way streets.

There are no two-way streets in Liberal media, or in their world.

The others cars driving the other way, is suppose to stop and fall in line. WTF?

It is kind of like the game of American football, where teams take their turns going on offense and defence.

But, according to Liberal media and their followers, this football game only one side gets to have the ball, and that side only scores touchdowns, they do not even kick field goals, and they never throw interceptions or fumbles.

That is rather ironic, considering the types of fumbles the Trump administration did, which were endorsed by the Biden administration.

I thought the Americans loved NFL football?

BTW, Green Bay will win this weekend, not sure if they would cover the minus -7½.

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AssassinsMace

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China would be perfectly fine that the US has its own while China has theirs. It's the US that displaces its own intentions to dominate all onto the Chinese just because it goes independent without giving the US a say. Does the US ask permission from China...? Americans don't believe they have to bother. Two decades ago the US use to say why does China need a military when there's the US? It's because they just answered their own question. But the US sees it as a challenge against them if countries they have no alliances with dare to have militaries as if they don't trust the US which is an insult. It's like the crossbow invented in China. When it reached Europe, the Vatican banned it because they saw it as a game-changing weapon for whoever's army possessed it. The Vatican wanted the power to dictate who was strong and who was vulnerable so they didn't like anything they didn't control. The only way the US will like you, but not treat you as an equal, is when you give them the ability to destroy you and you can do nothing about it. Just remember how Japan surrender to the West and adopted Western ways on their own choosing. That allowed Western colonialists to leave Japan out in cutting up Asia between them. They favored the Russians during the Russo-Japanese war. Then it led to the Japanese Empire and WWII. During the Cold War after being defeated by the US where Japan totally surrendered, they were treated as a worse threat than the Soviet Union. Japan today is only seen as a trusted ally because China is a bigger threat. Take China out of the picture and they go back to being lowly as Trump treated Japan and South Korea when he demanded they pay for US power and influence in Asia. The US is so spoiled with inferior-complex Asians sucking up to them like their were a god that they get offended when China goes down the naturally human path of seeking independence from them.
 

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Americans don't need any help in hating anything foreign. See this is the right knowing their xenophobia could backfire on them politically. They want to direct blame on something as American as apple pie on Russia and China because there's the other half of the US that can vote that are well-aware of the US's image around the world and how it can turn against the US. There was an interview with Lindsey Graham where he said he was against Critical Race Theory being taught because it would give China an excuse to ignore the US on human right violations accused by them. In other words the US must lie about their history to make it look that the never committed humans right violations like slavery so that the US doesn't look like hypocrite and therefore has the moral right to take actions against China over human rights violations. They want the Democrats to go along with stopping CRT purely for domestic concerns and nothing about foreign affairs.
 

ChongqingHotPot92

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Did you hear what USTR Ms.Tai said on her speech.

"We want to recouple with China"

Now they jumping up and down like crazy after seeing that the Chinese are ripping out US tech
It is a dilemma the US faces. On one hand, Washington wants to maintain its position as the top end of global supply chain. On the other hand, it knows that the more it engages China, the more Chinese engineers will learn American corporations' know-hows. So the task for Washington now is to try to trade with China in a way the minimize Chinese exposure to US state-of-the-art technologies, as hard as it sounds. At least that's what the Biden Administration hopes to achieve, as unrealistic as it may be.
 
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ChongqingHotPot92

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It also takes time for the USA to prepare for war and even worse, ensure that technologies are up to date and the people are sufficiently motivated along with ensuring that they have the money to even start a war for no printing trillions more isn’t going to be enough. Right now, the people are far more worried about saving for the winter and making sure they have enough food on the table to worry about a war they have no real interest in. China has proven there ability to make the latest radar in Taiwan useless the moment they tried to use it, so it is not far fetched to believe that China has the necessary capability to stop what ever missiles from Taiwan from reaching the mainland and should Taiwan make this fatal mistake, Taiwan will be wiped out via hypersonic weapons and any USA ship that tries a real attack will face a similar fate and also to mention, just attempting to hit any of China’s dams will mean a nuclear war will begin where both Russia and China will strike the USA in with all of their their nuclear weapons, hence ensure that with an option between making money from China or waging a pointless war for very little gain for anyone it’s quite clear that the USA has no real wish to die for a single Taiwanese no matter what kind of platitudes they sprout.
USA may limit itself to striking Chinese ships and ports only, but the Taiwan - fighting for survival - may decide to focus on striking the Three Gorges Dam and nuclear power plants. In other words, the Taiwanese have every incentive to spoof US forces into dilemmas where they may have to escalate or be killed.
 

ChongqingHotPot92

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Only India maybe able to escape the demographics worry since they make babies like there's no worries.
And India is exactly the insidious foe that will take advantage of US-China war over Taiwan and launch its own offensive into Tibet. Now you for a two front war facing China. India by itself lacks the ability to take on China, but it surely is a troublemaker in catching China off guard.
 

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And India is exactly the insidious foe that will take advantage of US-China war over Taiwan and launch its own offensive into Tibet. Now you for a two front war facing China. India by itself lacks the ability to take on China, but it surely is a troublemaker in catching China off guard.
If India chooses to invade China, then the capital of India will be a target, not to mention the sheer stupidity of matching troops up the mount into the Himalayas is simply what the heck (when many thousands of India troops have suffered in the winter when they are posted to the border with China which the Chinese soldiers had hot pot for dinner) and also to mention if India intends to fly planes into Tibet where there is obviously missiles there to shoot them down and strike into India as well. IF India is capable to taking on China, then why did they epic fail so badly that most of them fell down the mountain in a fight they started against China in that pass and now resorts to using WION to comfort their own fragile ego on a daily basis. The idea that India is capable of fighting a war against China, when Pakistan/Iran is ready to wreck India in the event they try to be funny, is simply wishful thinking when India is basically a nation that has failed to adapted into the modern age given their rape issues along with poverty, something a democratic nations shouldn't have in theory.

Also to mention is the Idea that the USA will target Chinese ships, come on, China has already shown the ability to jam signals and shut down the GPS in the south China sea along with having enough hypersonic missiles and troops to basically bomb all adversaries to kingdom come and end up no worse for wear given the sheer speed of which this can be done. You underestimate the extent that China will go to destroy their enemies should they start the fight which the USA has right now done with everything they have done up until now. Taiwan doesn't have the ability to strike the three gorges, a dam that is built to withstand nuclear weapons and worse and is also covered with enough radars and missiles and planes to intercept such an attempt with ease. Taiwan should they make this lethal move will risk having their power stations, their grids, their water faculties, military missile batteries and government buildings be bombed and thus will ensure that Taiwan will be destroyed within a week with the people surrendering under the fear of death from starvation and lack of water should the government in Taiwan be as stupid as you are suggesting to make the first strike, that ultimately will spell the death of the government. Also, formally targeting Chinese ships and ports in they way you describe will mean the beginning of WW3 and the usage of nuclear weapons from China and Russia to bring the USA down given that the USA has angered both nations so much that really it won't take much for them both to finally make the real moves and do what is necessary because really, you must be thinking that China is magically going to roll over just because the USA struck a port in China. You have to be utterly stupid not to expect China to bring reprisals what are lethal and given that this is the RED LINE with a talking about here and given that China has working hypersonic missiles, this will not end well for the USA (who always seem to fight people that cannot fight back) given that CHINA is not IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN and this is why the USA hasn't made a real invasion happen because this time, this foe they made completely on their own terms can cut off all goods and capital to the USA, dump all treasuries they process and will have the capabilities to strike back hard to any city in the USA and also has an ally that hates the USA equal or even worse then China does that can do the same kind of missiles strikes, only that they have more missiles to use.

The USA has too many problems to even begin a fight, other wise why are they trying to rope all the nations around the China to stand up to China instead of fighting them by themselves if they are a super power like they love to believe they are and why is the USA trying to desperately peel Russia from China if they are in a position of strength. With the food shortages, bad weather conditions killing the crops and the fact that the USA economic situation about to go critical, right now they can only make these stupid statements to rile China into invading but really, right now, even the Taiwanese president knows that on the day she decides to cross the red line, her life is forfeit like the way the USA assassinated that Iranian general, that is how far China will go to reunite with Taiwan if pressed to the extreme, if you are really Chinese, you will know that this is a red line that China will be glad to fight to the bitter end for, like in the two wars that saw China fight the USA to a draw at worse and basically kicking them away from invading the mainland at best, both of which shows the limit of a so call super power. The fact that the USA requires so many nations to try and take on China shows very well that the USA is a weak nation that needs to be push around like a bully to make themselves seem superior when the very retreat from Afghanistan and Vietnam has shown that even with they weapons they have, they don't have the mentality to do what it takes and that is the reason why the USA is one step away from chaos if they cannot sort their own problem out and continue to point that China as a way to deflect from their own issues which is not going to help them in any way to fix their issues
 
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daifo

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USA may limit itself to striking Chinese ships and ports only, but the Taiwan - fighting for survival - may decide to focus on striking the Three Gorges Dam and nuclear power plants. In other words, the Taiwanese have every incentive to spoof US forces into dilemmas where they may have to escalate or be killed.

Internet folks like to chest pound but I would really like the Taiwanese population to be poll what outcome would they want in a conflict with China if it happen next week.
a. 100% there life will change and 100% that they will know someone (or themselves) that would be dead in a conflict w China
b. Rejoin China under a similar deal as HK/Macau. Have 5% of their life change.
 

emblem21

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If India chooses to invade China, then the capital of India will be a target, not to mention the sheer stupidity of matching troops up the mount into the Himalayas is simply what the heck (when many thousands of India troops have suffered in the winter when they are posted to the border with China which the Chinese soldiers had hot pot for dinner) and also to mention if India intends to fly planes into Tibet where there is obviously missiles there to shoot them down and strike into India as well. IF India is capable to taking on China, then why did they epic fail so badly that most of them fell down the mountain in a fight they started against China in that pass and now resorts to using WION to comfort their own fragile ego on a daily basis. The idea that India is capable of fighting a war against China, when Pakistan/Iran is ready to wreck India in the event they try to be funny, is simply wishful thinking when India is basically a nation that has failed to adapted into the modern age given their rape issues along with poverty, something a democratic nations shouldn't have in theory.

Also to mention is the Idea that the USA will target Chinese ships, come on, China has already shown the ability to jam signals and shut down the GPS in the south China sea along with having enough hypersonic missiles and troops to basically bomb all adversaries to kingdom come and end up no worse for wear given the sheer speed of which this can be done. You underestimate the extent that China will go to destroy their enemies should they start the fight which the USA has right now done with everything they have done up until now. Taiwan doesn't have the ability to strike the three gorges, a dam that is built to withstand nuclear weapons and worse and is also covered with enough radars and missiles and planes to intercept such an attempt with ease. Taiwan should they make this lethal move will risk having their power stations, their grids, their water faculties, military missile batteries and government buildings be bombed and thus will ensure that Taiwan will be destroyed within a week with the people surrendering under the fear of death from starvation and lack of water should the government in Taiwan be as stupid as you are suggesting to make the first strike, that ultimately will spell the death of the government. Also, formally targeting Chinese ships and ports in they way you describe will mean the beginning of WW3 and the usage of nuclear weapons from China and Russia to bring the USA down given that the USA has angered both nations so much that really it won't take much for them both to finally make the real moves and do what is necessary because really, you must be thinking that China is magically going to roll over just because the USA struck a port in China. You have to be utterly stupid not to expect China to bring reprisals what are lethal and given that this is the RED LINE with a talking about here and given that China has working hypersonic missiles, this will not end well for the USA (who always seem to fight people that cannot fight back) given that CHINA is not IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN and this is why the USA hasn't made a real invasion happen because this time, this foe they made completely on their own terms can cut off all goods and capital to the USA, dump all treasuries they process and will have the capabilities to strike back hard to any city in the USA and also has an ally that hates the USA equal or even worse then China does that can do the same kind of missiles strikes, only that they have more missiles to use.

The USA has too many problems to even begin a fight, other wise why are they trying to rope all the nations around the China to stand up to China instead of fighting them by themselves if they are a super power like they love to believe they are and why is the USA trying to desperately peel Russia from China if they are in a position of strength. With the food shortages, bad weather conditions killing the crops and the fact that the USA economic situation about to go critical, right now they can only make these stupid statements to rile China into invading but really, right now, even the Taiwanese president knows that on the day she decides to cross the red line, her life is forfeit like the way the USA assassinated that Iranian general, that is how far China will go to reunite with Taiwan if pressed to the extreme, if you are really Chinese, you will know that this is a red line that China will be glad to fight to the bitter end for, like in the two wars that saw China fight the USA to a draw at worse and basically kicking them away from invading the mainland at best, both of which shows the limit of a so call super power. The fact that the USA requires so many nations to try and take on China shows very well that the USA is a weak nation that needs to be push around like a bully to make themselves seem superior when the very retreat from Afghanistan and Vietnam has shown that even with they weapons they have, they don't have the mentality to do what it takes and that is the reason why the USA is one step away from chaos if they cannot sort their own problem out and continue to point that China as a way to deflect from their own issues which is not going to help them in any way to fix their issues
Also to note is that the USA has a habit of crossing RED LINES of multiple nations, from Iran and the assassination of General Soleimani, Russia and the entire issue of Ukraine, that has been made worse because of Victoria Nuland (which all but guaranteed that Russia is going to be a real enemy of the USA instead of being made neutral like that USA wants), every wedding and innocent children they have raped and murdered in Afghanistan, the basic fact they have have ruined Africa, South America and the middle east with their foreign policies and wars and basically everything that the USA has done to China in Tibet, Xinjiang, HK and finally Taiwan. The fact that China hasn't launched a hypersonic nuke weapon at Washington speaks volumes as to how much restraint that China has.

Understand that one day when the USA makes a fatal mistake (and given how stupid this administration is right now, it is only a matter of time) and is in a position of true weakness, expect many nations to demand compensation and if the USA cannot offer any thing of value, well expect the nation treatment that the USA has done to the world to be done to the USA only many times worse as retribution for the harm done. The USA may be able to brainwash other nations, but the hatred they have created in their victims will never fade until justice is done. This is way so many nations are now scared because they have never be faced with a situation where their entire world view is away to change forever and God be willing, this is long over due.

Let it be known that China is the only nation to stand up to the USA in battle and live to remain a sovereign nation instead of being defeated like all those other nations the USA has fought in the past and made to heel. From they way I see it, the USA has failed to get the message to not force their ways on others so in the end, should the USA lose in the conflict in Taiwan, the USA could very well begin to lose its prominence as a strong nation because they really love to quote ‘God bless America’ while the reality is that they may very well be the Egyptians in the book of Moses that get sent through the ten plagues, a devastation so great that it brought the fear of God in them and basically ruined that nation hard. Ironically with all the things happening right now, it is hard to be able to see a real resemblance between the two and hence it is very likely that the USA is about to suffer very much to same conclusion if they don’t reflect on themselves and stop their needless wars when their is still time
 
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