Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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bajingan

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I looked at some of the videos released by China to combat the Uighur allegations and I must say that the propaganda department really is its own enemy. You basically have short (and obviously scripted) excerpts of Uighurs showing off their new houses, cars, restaurants whilst insulting Mike Pompeo. Every single one of them ends with something along the lines of I’m proud of my great country of China. Who comes up with this? Haven’t had this much cringe since I watched Kayne West insult Taylor Swift at the Grammys.

The correct approach would be something like this.


Don’t just focus on the big new houses and flashy cities. Show the alleys and less touristy stuff and organic interactions with the natives. You can tell that many of the guys in this video (a whole series of videos, actually) are indifferent or even camera shy, but that’s how people actually behave! The delicious food also serve as a good attention grabber so that people check them out.

The end game would be cultivating a Uighur Li Ziqi, but if the Chinese government try their hand at it it will fail for certain. They always try too hard and in the wrong direction.
One way to really counter their fake news effectively is to open up Xinjiang for tourism to western countries once covid under control
Promote visit Xinjiang year to Chinese tour agencies
This strategy have its own drawbacks though as us and co will try to insert their spies and terrorists to destabilize Xinjiang, but MSS can and fully capable of rounding up these people and perhaps execute them en masse to send a message to us
 

KYli

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One way to really counter their fake news effectively is to open up Xinjiang for tourism to western countries once covid under control
Promote visit Xinjiang year to Chinese tour agencies
This strategy have its own drawbacks though as us and co will try to insert their spies and terrorists to destabilize Xinjiang, but MSS can and fully capable of rounding up these people and perhaps execute them en masse to send a message to us
You are joking right. Thousands of Han Chinese were murdered. And it took 3-4 years and hundred of billions to quash the unrest. And you want to throw this all away to just promote a positive image of China.
 

OppositeDay

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I looked at some of the videos released by China to combat the Uighur allegations and I must say that the propaganda department really is its own enemy. You basically have short (and obviously scripted) excerpts of Uighurs showing off their new houses, cars, restaurants whilst insulting Mike Pompeo. Every single one of them ends with something along the lines of I’m proud of my great country of China. Who comes up with this? Haven’t had this much cringe since I watched Kayne West insult Taylor Swift at the Grammys.

The correct approach would be something like this.


Don’t just focus on the big new houses and flashy cities. Show the alleys and less touristy stuff and organic interactions with the natives. You can tell that many of the guys in this video (a whole series of videos, actually) are indifferent or even camera shy, but that’s how people actually behave! The delicious food also serve as a good attention grabber so that people check them out.

The end game would be cultivating a Uighur Li Ziqi, but if the Chinese government try their hand at it it will fail for certain. They always try too hard and in the wrong direction.

Propaganda workers are just there to meddle through and collect their paycheque. They generally have zero passion at what they do.
 

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One way to really counter their fake news effectively is to open up Xinjiang for tourism to western countries once covid under control
Promote visit Xinjiang year to Chinese tour agencies
This strategy have its own drawbacks though as us and co will try to insert their spies and terrorists to destabilize Xinjiang, but MSS can and fully capable of rounding up these people and perhaps execute them en masse to send a message to us

I didn’t talk about opening up unrestricted tourism. I’m talking about organically cultivating Tiktok stars that actually show how things are in Xinjiang.
 

gelgoog

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The US is the country which put Japanese origin citizens in concentration camps during WW2. They put migrants in camps today.
It is precious that they complain against what was a necessary effort to stop rampant insurrection sponsored by foreign powers.
Some of those people are right now in Syria inside Idlib like the Turkistan Islamic Party.
 

bajingan

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You are joking right. Thousands of Han Chinese were murdered. And it took 3-4 years and hundred of billions to quash the unrest. And you want to throw this all away to just promote a positive image of China.
Haha bad idea i guess, you are right even if China opens up Xinjiang, western msm will find a way to denigrate Xinjiang
I guess the only way to protect Xinjiang is to really shield it from outside sanctions
Right now its cotton exports tomorrow whats next?
China should use all Xinjiang products for domestic consumptions
 

KYli

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Haha bad idea i guess, you are right even if China opens up Xinjiang, western msm will find a way to denigrate Xinjiang
I guess the only way to protect Xinjiang is to really shield it from outside sanctions
Right now its cotton exports tomorrow whats next?
China should use all Xinjiang products for domestic consumptions
I would suggest any foreign companies such as Nike or Fast Retailing who does business in China need to adhere to Chinese law. If these foreign companies discriminate against Chinese inputs and labors, then these companies should be sanctioned. Products for exports wouldn't be sanctioned but products that intended for Chinese domestic market would be sanctioned.

Although Chinese government still preferred to bide its time and doesn't want to rock the boat so doubtful it would implement policies to punish offenders and triggered the white list.
 

bettydice

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I'm uncomfortable with "The West keeps accusing China vs China tries hard to prove its own innocence" or "offensive West vs defensive China" situation with focus being on China's human rights issuses. The West doesn't lose anything whatever the result and China can gain nothing at best even when proven innocent with only possibilities of China's image being damaged. Defending isn't the answer. Attacking back is the answer. You cannot win the fight by only being defensive when they keep attacking you. Being defensive will only make them freely attack you more. China should focus more on accusing the West's human rights issues rather than defending against the West's accusations. Argument shouldn't be on China guilty vs China innocent.
 

bajingan

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I'm uncomfortable with "The West keeps accusing China vs China tries hard to prove its own innocence" or "offensive West vs defensive China" situation with focus being on China's human rights issuses. The West doesn't lose anything whatever the result and China can gain nothing at best even when proven innocent with only possibilities of China's image being damaged. Defending isn't the answer. Attacking back is the answer. You cannot win the fight by only being defensive when they keep attacking you. Being defensive will only make them freely attack you more. China should focus more on accusing the West's human rights issues rather than defending against the West's accusations. Argument shouldn't be on China guilty vs China innocent.
Everytime a us police shoots unarmed black man, China should immidiately issue official condemnation through foreign ministry spoke woman/man
Makes noise on the un human right council, demands us to respect rights of minorities

Everytime there is a racist attacks against Chinese in new york (seems to be happening a lot lately) or wherever in the us or everytime there is a Chinese researcher being arrested by the fbi for bogus spying charges. Broadcasts it non stop domestically in cctv or ctgn, advises Chinese parents how dangerous it is for Chinese in america and how their children might either be arrested by the fbi if they study science or be randomly targeted on the streets of la or nyc, unfortunately there are still a lot Chinese parents who still white worship america and brainwash their children, this must change
 
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