not true: if the wind is strong, as often the case in the open sea, a CV/N can sail into it & move at slower speeds.
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Yes but I was trying to prove there will be situations the CSG will move faster than the max speed of 075s...
If they'll need them for ASW, sending them ahead of time to air ops/patrol areas will solve that problem. ASW helos can also be rotated between LHA/Ds & CV/Ns, even if they r not close together.
An 075 LHD with a top speed of 25 knots will not be able a suitable ASW platform for a CSG because it won't be able to keep up with a CSG whose top speed is 30+ knots.
The top speed of a CSG is not only able providing wind over deck for the aircraft, it's also about giving your task force the speed to maneuver between different areas of operations and theaters.
An 075 LHD simply won't be able to keep up with a CSG moving between different areas of operations, and will not be a normal "part" of the CSG in the traditional sense. At best, they might be a separate task force by itself, operating in the same area of operations as a CSG but with significantly reduced top speed and therefore reduced flexilibility to move between different theaters.
Just because 075 can carry lots of helicopters doesn't mean it will be able to provide ASW as "part" of a CSG due to limitations in the ship's speed.
Carrying lots of ASW helicopters doesn't mean anything if your ship is unable to keep pace with the rest of the ships in a CSG.
The PLAN, unlike the USN, will have 2-3 CSGs in different theaters simultaneously- in SC Sea, W. Pac., & N. Indian Ocean- no need to move between them.
Hendrik_2000
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Exactly they can rotate between LHA& CV/N And why should they go for the max speed of 30 Knot Are they in a race ? It is ridiculous idea. In the age of satellite there is no surprise any more It is not like in WWII where the IJN race to Hawaii under the cover of bad weather
Another ridiculous idea is ship noise But but the helicopter will be nowhere close to LHD. They will be hundred mile away from LHD
The LHD only serve as a mother ship providing it with fuel, weaponry and crew rotation, maintenance
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Agreed.
Also, average speed of CBG ( especially non-nuclear ) isn't nowhere near 30+ knots. They may have a periods of 30 kts speed every few hours ( 10-20 minutes, depending on wind, they can turn into a wind ) while they launch aircrafts, but it definitly isn't 25/8. Just imagine how much fuel would be spent that way. And how many replenishment ships would be necesarry.
So, during that slower periods Type 075 can catch up, if that's even necesarry.
asif iqbal
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Thanks Arienai and as previously stated no need to apologise
glad we have a refreshing member here
glad we have a refreshing member here
Intrepid
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There have been frequent sprinting of aircraft carrier combat groups over several days at speeds greater than 30 knots. But no flight operations take place during these sprints.
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