Crisis in the Ukraine

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Dannhill

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You expected BBC to report this kind of news? :D

They would if the accusations are the other way around. Now that would be news their readers will believe.
BBC didn't even tell their readers about Amnesty International's report on Aidar battalion guilty of war crimes.

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In fact, I have not seen that reported by any mainstream media that is openly pro-US, including my country's own Straits Times which basically report what US States dept puts out as press release. My country's media journalistic standard is worse than yours.

This news was given on the website of my favorite radio station but I didn't find it on the BBC site.
 
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delft

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You expected BBC to report this kind of news? :D

They would if the accusations are the other way around. Now that would be news their readers will believe.
BBC didn't even tell their readers about Amnesty International's report on Aidar battalion guilty of war crimes.

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In fact, I have not seen that reported by any mainstream media that is openly pro-US, including my country's own Straits Times which basically report what US States dept puts out as press release. My country's media journalistic standard is worse than yours.
After posting I considered that my favorite radio/website wants to serve businesses who need to have acurate information while BBC is part of a state's propaganda organisation.
 

Dannhill

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Very gutsy reporters going into Donetsk airport where fighting is still going on.

Posted by journalists. "On the territory of Donetsk airport under attack were journalists REN TV. Our reporter broke into the territory of Donetsk airport, where he came under fire. Luckily, neither he nor his colleagues were not injured."

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nicky

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GE demonstrates atrocities of war: evident crime committed by ukrainian army. mass bombardment of civilian targets with heavy artillery and multiple rocket launchers. in april the picture is all quiet and peaceful but already in early july civilian targets devastated by heavy and indiscriminate fire. at the time the rebels did not have armament yet.

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Dannhill

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The aim is to force Russian speaking east Ukrainians to leave Ukraine or die in it.

Typical genocide tactics.

GE demonstrates atrocities of war: evident crime committed by ukrainian army. mass bombardment of civilian targets with heavy artillery and multiple rocket launchers. in april the picture is all quiet and peaceful but already in early july civilian targets devastated by heavy and indiscriminate fire. at the time the rebels did not have armament yet.

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Dannhill

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Suspicions on organ trade by Kiev junta forces in occupied parts of east Ukraine.

OSCE Special Representative on Combating Trafficking in Human Beings Madina Dzharbusynova stated that the possibility exists that found in mass graves in the Donbass region of the body could be left without internal organs, which could be sold.

She stated this on the TV channel "Ukraine 112." "At the annual meeting of OSCE commitments in the implementation of human rights was made ​​by the representative of non-governmental groups working in this area, that supposedly the Ukraine in the east found burial, where according to the testimony, the bodies were without internal organs, that is here raised the question that there is a trade " - said Jarbussynova. militiamen found Sept. 23 near Donetsk several graves, where, according to local residents, the dead are buried Ukrainian civil security forces. At the request of Prime Minister Alexander DNR Zaharchenko, three graves found about 40 bodies of civilians. Over the weekend, arrived at the scene a group of international observers. militia representatives believe that the killing of civilians - the work of the National Guard soldiers in Ukraine: Ukrainian troops were in the village of Lower Jug since April and left there on 21 September. The Russian Foreign Ministry believes that "there is a very severe symptoms," to believe that the killings of civilians may have been involved in the security forces of the National Guard. In Kiev, deny it. representative of the Council of National Security and Defense of Ukraine Andriy Lysenko said earlier that in this place, "no soldier of the National Guard was never found," but there were other units zinc PS. There was so much shouting on the fact that the trade bodies in the Donbas is fake and a horror story, but podizh you have already reached to the OSCE history. Meanwhile continuing discovery of new graves punishers tortured civilians and militias. Bearing in mind that the detection and esgumatsii such graves in fact at the very beginning, I believe that such terrible discoveries will still not enough. Notably, the junta is trying to divide natsigvardiyu and "other security forces," they say natsigvardiya certainly can, but the rest - below neither. But remembering the mutilated prisoners, bullied by the 25th Airmobile Brigade and ordered Strelkova officers of this brigade to take no prisoners, it is like trying to dump all the crimes of the Wehrmacht to the SS. It is clear that within the purpose of scapegoats, the blame will try to put the blame on punitive battalions.

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delft

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An item on the website of my favorite radio station this morning:
Russia has opened juridical proceedings against several Ukrainian leaders for genocide on the Russian speaking minority in the country. According to a Dutch lawyer who specialises in international criminal justice the accusations are partly supported by Human Rights Watch but he said they will be difficult to prove.
 

Dannhill

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Amnesty International already linked the abuses to Aidar battalion so their commander and their oligarchic owner can be named defendants in a War Crime case filed with The Hague. Then Interpol will issue international warrants of arrests for these 2.

An item on the website of my favorite radio station this morning:
Russia has opened juridical proceedings against several Ukrainian leaders for genocide on the Russian speaking minority in the country. According to a Dutch lawyer who specialises in international criminal justice the accusations are partly supported by Human Rights Watch but he said they will be difficult to prove.
 

delft

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Amnesty International already linked the abuses to Aidar battalion so their commander and their oligarchic owner can be named defendants in a War Crime case filed with The Hague. Then Interpol will issue international warrants of arrests for these 2.
I would be surprised if it happened in time to have any influence on politics in Ukraine. The best chance is a scandal about MH17. Malaysia will put pressure on the investigation.
 

Blackstone

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I would be surprised if it happened in time to have any influence on politics in Ukraine. The best chance is a scandal about MH17. Malaysia will put pressure on the investigation.

I doubt Vladamir Putin and his operatives in Eastern Ukraine give a hoot about the innocent victims on board MH17, and Malaysia doesn't have enough horsepower to concern him. Now if MH17 was full of Chinese nationals, then Putin might care a little bit, not for the innocent victims, but because the Communist Overlords in Beijing might voice concerns. Moscow will likely have dog and pony shows to entertain the world, but that's about all Malaysia and families of MH17 victims could expect. It would probably be the same even if the victims were Chinese, but we'd see fancier dogs and prettier ponies for Beijing.
 
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