China demographics thread.

steel21

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Isn't 996 a contributing factor for China's competitiveness?

If China drops 996 but ASEAN countries don't?
What was Japan's birth rate in the 1980's?

The Japanese were famous for the Salaryman to come home only after midnight, after either working at the office or hanging out with crew a the local karaoke joint.
 

Xizor

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What was Japan's birth rate in the 1980's?

The Japanese were famous for the Salaryman to come home only after midnight, after either working at the office or hanging out with crew a the local karaoke joint.
I do know Japanese overworking and the mismatch with productivity is a thing.

But 996 isn't necessarily unproductive. Time* effort counts. Something better than 996 should be brought up (rather than just cutting the time).
 

Jiang ZeminFanboy

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No wonder Dongbei struggling at zero growth agenda, if even one province of the three had a 20% of its population decrease in 10 years.


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voyager1

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Isn't 996 a contributing factor for China's competitiveness?

If China drops 996 but ASEAN countries don't?
Good point. However this may also incentivise Chinese corporations to work smarter instead of harder.

Why can the developed world companies work with a "normal" schedule while retaining and even increasing competitiveness vs Chinese corps who use the 996 system.

Sometimes it is better to force these companies hand in order to find ways to increase productivity by smart ways instead of throwing bodies into the problem
 

Xizor

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Why can the developed world companies work with a "normal" schedule while retaining and even increasing competitiveness vs Chinese corps who use the 996 system.
Because they use Information technology to streamline and network.

Most of the western corporations are in the service sector ( not a new info) but they have outsourced many mundane / low quality inputs necessary to sustain the services to developing countries (India).

So Indians do the 996 for the west and get the pittance.
 

hkbc

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Did the Singapore's TFR hit 1.1 when it was poor or when it is already super rich now? Doubt that it was the first

Think you missed a question mark!

To answer the question you didn't ask it really depends what you mean by poor, Singapore's TFR dipped to 1.43 in 1986 when it had a GDP per head of $6800 at which point the government started campaigns to rectify it which bumped it up a bit to 1.6 - 1.8 for about 14 years before it dropped back down below the 1986 figure and continued to drop.

As data points US GDP per head in 1986 was almost 3x that at a bit over 19K and in 2019 GDP per head in Singapore is over 65,200 USD or 9.5x what it was in 1986 and US GDP in 2019 is almost identical to Singapore's at 65,300

So did Singapore experience demographic issues when it was 1/3 as rich as the USA, answer is yes!

Did it prove to be the catastrophic end of the city state, answer at least to date is no!

Doubt don't doubt meaningless supposition.....
 

steel21

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Because they use Information technology to streamline and network.

Most of the western corporations are in the service sector ( not a new info) but they have outsourced many mundane / low quality inputs necessary to sustain the services to developing countries (India).

So Indians do the 996 for the west and get the pittance.
Except the Indian are more like 935. They make look like 996, but they are probably working like 6 hours a day for 5 days.

With all the problems the Indians created with their out sourced effort, it seems that the Indians create more problems than they solve.

Its not a huge problem because even guys with Indian MBA get paid like $5k USD a year.
 
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I share some graphs with you all, so you all can stop off-topic bickering:
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Upward revision in overall population in 2020 (probably revised to include previously unaccounted for births/people)

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Age structure: increase in the number of 60+, but interestingly, increase in the 0-14 age group population.

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The number of university graduates in China has reached 218 million. This is nearly twice as many as just a decade ago, and nearly eight-times higher than two decades ago. A giant increase in the general level of education in a very short time.

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Urbanization rate bigger than expected previously; urban population has reached 902m, overall urbanization rate at 64%, higher pace of urban growth for the past decade accelerated by 0.75 percentage points from the previous decade.
 
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The off topic bickering is centered around the fate of China by 2030 (10 years from now).

By all means, an aging population isn't a blessing. Will China collapse? No. But China won't prosper at a good rate ( keep GDP ticking).
I meant off-topic bickering as in "Indians are naturally lazy" or "genetic nature" or whatever racist cliches some of you (not all of course) are propagating. Of course, you can discuss what the CPC should do to remedy this, that would be relevant to this thread, but please do not get into xenophobic off-topic chatter about other countries or nations.
 
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