ARM cuts ties with Huawei, threatening future chip designs


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I don't think a big company such as Huawei won't use pirated software because it would hurt its reputation and give the US more excuses to ban it
Well you would be mistaken.
A lot of employees just do it on their own cuz they’re afraid to ask for their personal copy due to cost. Some of these high end software require fobs to be passed around and is inconvenient so people just pirate it and stay quiet about it.
 

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Sorry Nokia, Huawei is still leading in 5G orders
ByLu Han
Posted on June 6, 2019

Telecom equipment maker Nokia recently announced that it has acquired more 5G orders than Huawei, but the Chinese telecom giant has announced today that it has achieved most 5G commercial contracts to date.

On June 6, China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology had granted licenses to four major telecoms including China Telecom, China Mobile, China Unicom, and China Broadcasting Network Corp, marked as a major change in China’s 5G network deployment.

After this announcement, Huawei officially congratulated these telecoms and said it’s ready to support Chinese operator to build China’s 5G.

Huawei also announced, as of now it has signed 46 5G commercial contracts in 30 countries, and 5G base stations have shipped more than 100,000 units.

This is more than the figures announced by Nokia to acquire 42 commercial 5G orders and claimed that it’s leading over Huawei in the 5G orders.


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Intel , qualcomm should and probably be in China upcoming "unreliable entity" list as they stopped shipment to Huawei.

Yet they are salivating over China 5g rollout plan.

China does not need this type of partners. They need be excluded from China as deleverage raged on.

Opo, xiaomi like lenovo quickly introduced 5 G phones with Qualcomm snapdragon

6月6日,工业和信息化部宣布正式向中国移动、中国电信、中国联通和中国广电发布第五代移动通信技术商用牌照(以下简称“
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牌照”)。对此,
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告诉记者,这标志着中国5G元年正式开启,高通已经做好准备,全力支持中国5G商用部署。

孟樸表示,首先,热烈祝贺中国5G牌照发放。5G会像电力一样,成为驱动未来创新、能够影响众多行业的重要技术变革。高通相信5G牌照的发放将极大促进中国5G网络、终端、应用和服务的快速发展和成熟,进而为促进社会消费和壮大数字经济提供新的驱动力。

孟樸称,高通坚信5G的成功来自产业链的紧密协作,高通期待继续与合作伙伴携手,推动5G终端的快速普及,推动5G技术赋能更多行业。高通将进一步融入中国产业当中,持续扩大合作生态圈,一如既往地和中国合作伙伴共享机遇、相互赋能,共建万物智能互连的未来。

6月3日,工信部曾表示,当前,全球5G正在进入商用部署的关键期,坚持自主创新与开放合作相结合,中国5G产业已建立竞争优势。5G标准是全球产业界共同参与制定的统一国际标准,中国声明的标准必要专利占比超过30%。在技术试验阶段,诺基亚、爱立信、高通、英特尔等多家国外企业已深度参与,在各方努力下,我国5G已经具备商用基础
 
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Inside Huawei’s secretive plans to develop an operating system to rival Google’s Android


The OS issue took an extra urgency after the US government in mid-May placed Huawei and its affiliates on a trade blacklist

One of the biggest technical challenges for the Huawei OS under development has been its compatibility with Android, people say

Seven years ago, in a villa facing a lake in Shenzhen, a small group of top Huawei Technologies executives headed by founder Ren Zhengfei held a closed-door meeting that lasted for several days.

Their mission was to brainstorm ideas on how Huawei should respond to the rising success of Google’s Android smartphone operating system (OS) around the world – software that it used on its own handsets. The underlying concern was that dependence on Android could render the company vulnerable to a US ban in the future.

The group agreed that Huawei should build a proprietary OS as a potential alternative to Android, according to people familiar with the matter, who declined to be identified because the information is private.

This meeting was later called the “lakeside talks” internally and access to documents relating to the gathering became highly restricted last year, the sources said.

After the US ramped up pressure on Huawei, the company has finally had to acknowledge its long-secret plans for an alternative OS.

Following the talks and direction from senior management, a specialist OS team led by executives including Eric Xu Zhijun, currently one of the three rotating chairmen for Huawei, was established and began to work on an OS under conditions of tight secrecy.

A specialised zone was created inside Huawei to house the OS team, with guards on the door. Only employees on the OS team had access to the specialist area, which was accessed with registered staff cards. Personal mobile phones were not allowed and had to be kept in an outside locker.

The OS project became an important part of Huawei 2012 Laboratories, which functions as the innovation, research and technology development arm of the company.

The lab, which includes Huawei scholars and researchers, aims to drive cutting-edge innovation and sucks in billions of yuan of investments every year with no immediate contribution to company profits.

Most of the lab’s output is not public knowledge, including the OS project, the existence of which has only recently been acknowledged by Huawei.

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UPDATE 1-Huawei exec says goal to be world’s top phone maker some time off


SHANGHAI, June 11 (Reuters) - China’s Huawei Technologies Co Ltd will need more time to become the world’s largest smartphone maker, a goal it originally aimed to achieve in the fourth quarter of this year, a senior executive said on Tuesday.

“We would have become the largest in the fourth quarter (of this year) but now we feel that this process may take longer,” said Shao Yang, chief strategy officer of Huawei Consumer Business Group, without elaborating on reasons.

Huawei currently sells 500,000 to 600,000 smartphones a day, he said in a speech at the CES Asia technology show in Shanghai.

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500K-600K per day = 182-219M smartphones per year.
That is comparable to the 2018 sales level which was 200M smartphones.

It is a setback, but it looks like Huawei smartphone's division is still ok.
 

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Interview with Huawei Founder

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On May 24, Bloomberg News interviewed Huawei Technologies Co. founder Ren Zhengfei at the company’s headquarters in Shenzhen. The following excerpts, translated by Bloomberg, have been condensed and edited for clarity:

Bloomberg: President Trump has suggested that Huawei could be a factor in any trade deal between the US and China. How likely is that, do you think, from your perspective?

Ren: The U.S. has never bought products from us, so how can they negotiate with us? Even if the U.S. wants to buy our products in the future, I may not sell to them. There’s no need for a negotiation.

I will ignore Trump, then who can he negotiate with? If he calls me, I may not answer. But he doesn’t even have my number.

I see his tweets and think it’s laughable because they are self-contradictory.



Bloomberg: What were you ambitions for the company back in 1987?

Ren: I didn’t have any goals. At that time, we didn’t even have enough food. I clearly recall when my daughter was very little, her mother often told me that she needed to go to market at around 5 a.m. to buy stale fish and shrimp. The dead fish and shrimp were sold at a very cheap price in Guangdong. She cooked it for our daughter to provide protein. She said without enough protein, children cannot grow healthy. We could only maintain the minimum standard of living. So we did not have any goals. The goal was only to survive -- we didn’t even know whether we could survive. My most famous slogan at the company is "survive, survive and survive." Even today, when we are like a damaged airplane, our slogan is still to survive, rather than any great ambition.

Bloomberg: Did you ever image that you will be sitting here today in this position?

Ren: Actually if people don’t desire much, they can be more capable. I don’t desire much. As you can see, I don’t want to take too much money. I only hold a small portion of company shares. People say I’m rich, but back in 2000, I didn’t even own an apartment. The apartment I rented with my wife was only half the size of this room. It faced west and had no air-conditioner.
There was no turning back for us. If we went backwards, it would be poverty, if we went forward, it would be still poverty. But, if we kept going, there might be a slim chance of hope, while there was absolutely no hope if we went backwards. So we had to keep walking forward, walking and walking. All of sudden, we saw the sunshine, we suddenly realized we were at the top of the Himalayas.
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Bloomberg: I just want to also bring it back to some of the original topics we talked about at the beginning around the supplies. We talked about how some of the major suppliers like Intel, like Qualcomm, like ARM, Panasonic and Google are restricting their supply of components and software to Huawei. Just explain to us how you weather that storm.

Ren: The U.S. manages its own companies, the U.S. is not the international police. They can’t manage the whole world. The rest of the world decides whether they should work with us based on their own business interests and positions. If some companies don’t want to work with us, it’s like a hole in the airplane. We’re working to fix the hole but the airplane is still able to fly.
Of the chips we’ve been using, half are from U.S. companies and half we produce ourselves. If the U.S. imposes further restrictions on us, we’ll reduce our purchases from the U.S. and use more of our own chips. If American companies have permission from Washington to sell to us, we will continue to buy from them.

Bloomberg: What extent of damage, how much damage do you expect to be felt in the consumer division of the business, so smartphones and laptops, which depend on U.S. chips but also U.S. software?

Ren: We might miss our expected growth target, but we are still growing. Being able to grow in the toughest battle environment; that just reflects how great we are.
Bloomberg: Does the actions that the U.S. has taken, does that mean you’re going to have to ramp up that R&D spending even more to develop your own in-house products and components?

Ren: We set our sale prices relatively high. Our current prices are higher than Ericsson and Nokia. So we can make lots of money.
As long as we can afford to live and as long as we can survive, we would like to invest more in R&D. Even during the most difficult time, we still need to invest in the future, otherwise we don’t have a future.

Bloomberg: You had bragging rights earlier this year, you overtook apple as the number 2 smartphone maker, you saw smartphone sales in the first quarter jump by about 50%, and of course you do have that goal of becoming the number one smartphone maker in the world. Does that goal now have to be shelved?

Ren: An apple is as big as this. We became a peach over the past few years, a bit bigger than an apple. We might become a plum in coming years, smaller than an apple. But still edible. A plum is just a little bit sour and bitter.

We can become bigger or smaller. We are not a public company, we are not only pursuing growth or profit. It’s good enough for us to just survive.

Bloomberg: There have been calls by some in China for Beijing to retaliate against Apple. Is that an action that China should be looking at taking?

Ren: That will not happen, first of all. And second of all, if it happens, I’ll be the first to protest. Apple is the world’s leading company. If there was no Apple, there would be no mobile internet. If there was no Apple to help show us the world, we would not see the beauty of this world. Apple is my teacher, it’s advancing in front of us. As a student, why should I oppose my teacher? I would never do that.

Bloomberg: You’ve talked about having a 2-year lead in terms of 5G, on your competitors. Does that lead get eroded?

Ren: Definitely. If we slow down it’s because the wing of the airplane has lots of holes. If we fly slowly but others fly fast, of course they can catch us up. But we will keep fixing the holes. We will fly fast again once all the holes are fixed.

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i'm curious how huawei gonna substitute all the US components in its phone? there are what 33 components in the phone thats from US. are there part available from japan/SK/taiwan/china to substitute the ban parts?

 

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i'm curious how huawei gonna substitute all the US components in its phone? there are what 33 components in the phone thats from US. are there part available from japan/SK/taiwan/china to substitute the ban parts?

Yea none of us here are expert enough to know.
 

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i'm curious how huawei gonna substitute all the US components in its phone? there are what 33 components in the phone thats from US. are there part available from japan/SK/taiwan/china to substitute the ban parts?

There are alternatives to Corning's Gorilla Glass. Including Chinese manufacturers.
There are alternatives to Micron's NAND Flash/DRAM. Like from Samsung, SK Hynix, or Toshiba.
I don't have exhaustive knowledge of the whole sector. But in time we will see.
 
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