PLAN 2018 Review (Jeff Head)

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  1. B.I.B.
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    Hang in there Jeff
     
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    Both statements are equally hard to prove.

    But.
    Submarine capability jump isn't about one or two key advancements in key areas.
    Twice so much against anopponent considering it as a key investment for last half century.
     
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    I'd say at the 095 should be on par with the Seawolf class at the very least. I'm not sure if the 093B can achieve the 688i level but the next generation sub should definitely do it. Chinese propulsion and acoustic quieting technologies have advanced by leaps and bounds since the 093's were launched ... we'll see the 095/096 reflect that. I don't think Chinese nuclear sub tech is as behind as some suggest ... it's probably the most secretive field of the PLAN.
     
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    Thank you for the great analysis, and godspeed for the future, Jeff. I never post here, only lurk and read, but I've learned so much from your work and this community and the corners of the internet they've sent me to, or translated things I would never have known of otherwise... I've gained a healthy respect for the Chinese people and their efforts where only contempt had existed, and a much more realistic view of America's place in the world and in the future. I will always be sending interested friends to your PLAN Reviews for a comprehensive overview of China's resurgence.
     
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    Nice job Jeff. Actually great job.

    Regarding the Sub noise levels, I'd expect the 095 to be better than LA 688i, but whether it will reach Seawolf, Astute, 885M, Improved Virginia is another matter.
     
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    Hi Jeff, it's been demonstrated over time that we have major differences of opinion but I can only agree with your sentiments to Dfangsaur above and wish for good US-Sino relations.

    Thank you for your contributions to this forum, sharing your personal stories, and your example of great positive attitude in the face of serious health issues. I wish you the best and hope you will keep participating in the forum for a long time to come.
     
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    This is what I wait to read every new year!
    Great job. I'm sure you will be healthy enough to write the next year report too.

    I think what you say and what blitzo is trying to convey about railgun progress are not comparable.

    US projects have to show progress in order to get more and more funding because most weapon systems are developed by private companies. If they all had DARPA funding, we will never know about it. So the openness is part publicity and part sales pitch to the military for cash to continue.

    The Chinese systems are mostly government departments funded so more secretive, think F117s. So unless they can't hide it anymore or want to make a statement, they will not show it. Unless it is private funded, think J31, we won't know progress.

    For all we know there are a million failed projects in the pipeline that we will never know, because China won't let us know. In the US, we will know all the failed projects, because funding gets pulled.
     
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    A Man
     
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    Independent of the disagreements and debates over nuances and topics, it has always been a pleasure discussing matters with Jeff, and his many years of following the Chinese Navy and producing these reports are greatly appreciated if not simply for the effort reflected in it alone.

    Best of luck, to Jeff, and to your family and loved ones too.
     
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    Do we even know the acoustic level of a I LA class? I know I don’t.
     
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