Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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9dashline

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You sound like a decent nice guy. Nice to have you here, whatever happens is out of our control, hence we have no responsibilities for it, as a definition.
Of course there are bigger forces at play here, don't matter whatever outcome we all wish for, that's life. I'd go find some delicious meaning of life in my fridge now.
Carb load while you still can... this may be all over soon....
youre talking about one of the small economies in the world that barely has any integration with anyone.

And threats to Russia is a joke. What was that? A dollar would be worth 100 roubles? Lmao. Who is the one in recession now and with double digit inflation?

When US can't even try to steal from an italy sized economy, they want to steal from the largest economy in the world? That is like a robber that can't break into a house trying to break into the central bank.
You know its bad when Potus has to redefine the word "recession", and canned spam gets its own security lock box and five year old kids are working at restuarants
 

ZeEa5KPul

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If Pelosi's plane is shot down, what is America's likely response going to be? Do people really expect them to declare war on China and invade?
That's not the question to ask at all. The question isn't what the US is likely to do, the question is what can it do. You don't plan for likely outcomes, you plan for the worst case scenario. So, yes, China should plan that if it kills Pelosi that the US would declare war and then ask itself if this is a war it can win.
 

phrozenflame

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The U.S. Pentagon spokesperson, John Kirby just reiterated the long standing U.S. commitment that his country does not support Taiwanese Independence.

More salami slicing, frog being boiled slowly. Just that it will take longer due to size of China, but it is very much happening.

US is doing what any rational actor of global power politics would do. No point calling either side good or bad, it's just the nature of the beast, this is the game. It's upto China how they outplay US.
 

xypher

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People who think that the US is intentionally baiting China for war are deluded. America cannot win a war near the Chinese shores and they are simply betting that China is bluffing or will not go that far as to start a hot war. The reason for this saber rattling is because of the dire domestic situation where Biden is going to become a lame duck president if they don't do something now, that's why you see this desperate attempt to shore up some brownie points prior to the autumn election period.

Remember, that the stakes are high not only for China but for the US as well. If they are unable to resolutely defeat China, then the world order carefully shaped & crafted by the US through all these years will fall down like a house of cards together with the US itself.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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I think it was in my post about the Tomahawk Weapon System, but I remember outlining regions in which US CSGs are likely to operate due to permissive bathymetry, sufficient standoff from the mainland, sufficient proximity to Taiwan, and topographic "depth" provided by landmasses. CSG5 is right about on the inner (meaning closer to the mainland) edge of that zone, and the ARGs are just west of that edge.

I'm not saying that war is going to break out, but I again want to remind folks here that this is what force protection and preparation for a potential onset of hostilities looks like.
Sorry for interupting your recovery, but I have two quick questions for you.

1. What do the intelligence community surrounding DC and the Pentagon think of the situation in the Western Pacific thus far, with Pelosi's visit to Taiwan being confirmed? Related to this, are they generally viewing China's expected response as the same as what Kirby said, i.e. China would only be merely bluffing; or that they are expecting China to respond for real this time, (primarily) militarily or otherwise?

2. Say, if China proceed to attack and invade Taiwan militarily in response to Pelosi's visit, would the US and her allies directly intervene (as in sending troops and ships to fight China directly), or just providing assistance from the sidelines, like what they are doing with Ukraine right now? Assuming that Pelosi is able to leave Taiwan safely, whether ot not she can meet English Vegetable.
 
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FriedButter

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pre-effects of War. imagine when fireworks will start. Taiwan cannot bear the weight of this war. their entire economy will collapse.

This article is just trying to gaslight you.

The currency dropped Sunday as much as 0.2%, with sentiment turning lower due to heightened geopolitical tensions between China and the US

US indexes crater every half an hour then.
 

dasCKD

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People who think that the US is intentionally baiting China for war are deluded. America cannot win a war near the Chinese shores and they are simply betting that China is bluffing or will not go that far. The reason for this saber rattling is because of the dire domestic situation where Biden is going to become a lame duck president if they don't do something now.

Remember, that the stakes are high not only for China but for the US as well. If they are unable to resolutely defeat China, then the world order carefully shaped & crafted by the US through all these years will fall down like a house of cards together with the US itself.
It may be sufficient for the US and regional allies if they manage to sufficiently degrade Chinese weaponry and personal to an extent where the takeover of the Taiwan island, in the near future, won't really be easy enough for the PRC and the leadership to manage to gain a foothold on Taiwan or effect a leadership change. Even if America doesn't resolutely defeat China, the possibility that they might be able to keep China from fulfilling their objectives might be tempting enough for the civilian government of the US to try to risk it anyways.
 
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