Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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solarz

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The same thing that happened to Iran is happening to Russia and will happen to China.

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youre talking about one of the small economies in the world that barely has any integration with anyone.

And threats to Russia is a joke. What was that? A dollar would be worth 100 roubles? Lmao. Who is the one in recession now and with double digit inflation?

When US can't even try to steal from an italy sized economy, they want to steal from the largest economy in the world? That is like a robber that can't break into a house trying to break into the central bank.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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So if you don't know what it is, or if it's real and you don't care if increases become official, how do you know that it went up and how much do you want it to go up by? This whole things reads like a child wanting a thing without knowing what he actually wants but he knows he's pissed off.
Just because I don't know exactly what China's military spending is - which isn't entirely accurate since people who do know put it at 1.7% - doesn't mean I then substitute a comforting story that the secret number is much higher. Since you seem obsessed with a concrete ask, here it is: I want the official Chinese defense budget to reach the 2% NATO minimum. That's a thing with me.
How is it limited by funding?
Its growth rate is limited by funding. When J-20s are produced at a fraction of the rate of F-35s, I know the problem isn't technological, but funding limitations.
What part of China's spending is unimportant and should be diverted?
This isn't government spending but societal spending more broadly. The part that should be diverted is the part that blew up real estate prices to malignant levels. China's youth unemployment is at high double-digit levels and a healthy chunk of them have STEM degrees, I'm sure that with a little extra currency the Chinese military-industrial complex can go on a hiring spree.
It's my impression that the PLA is funded by as much as they can intelligently and beneficially use, with minimal glut or fat as seen in the US military.
This reads like a fervent religious believer's conviction in his deity's omniscience. I can believe that 1. The CPC is the best governing body on Earth by far and 2. It needs to correct course on the issue of military spending. They're not mutually exclusive and I don't require the CPC to be 100% right on every issue ever until the end of time.
It does not mean useless so you can't evaluate this without knowing what is in the works and how soon it will arrive.
We don't know in detail but we do have some idea. We know, for instance, that the WS-15 will enter mass production in a couple of years. We know that CAC pawned off J-10 production to GAIC to expand capacity for J-20s. All very welcome. But we also know that CAC isn't expanding its factory space or hiring substantially more workers. I would like that to change.
The PLA calibrated it to a good balance between being flooded with suboptimal designs and having nothing to protect yourself with.
How recently has that rate been calibrated because it strikes me that it hasn't been calibrated for a while. Perhaps a recalibration is in order.
The US has no urgency to defeat the USSR; it is reversed from now. The USSR was fading so the US wanted to bide for time. Now, it is China who wants to do that as China is outgrowing the US. The urgency is reversed.
Yes, but that doesn't mean that China can be lazy and complacent or think that the appropriate defense spending rate in 1993 should hold indefinitely.
But you presume to understand the lessons and you presume that they don't, or didn't or that they don't have a better analysis/conclusion.
True, yet I still assume it. Just because they're excellent doesn't mean they're infallible or that in this specific circumstance I might *gasp* know better.
 
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9dashline

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Sounds like they're trying to de-escalate. However, if Pelosi keeps trying to land in Taiwan, then they'll find out, like they did in Korea, that the Communist Party of China does not bluff.
Not necessarily descalate, they just want the cookie and to be able to eat it too and regurgitate it back a third time....

Basically trade with China only when and where it benefits US, get to salami slice China at will, and still not suffer any consequences at all....

This is like the frog repeatedly being told he is not being cooked to death even as he is being slowly boiled until its too late...

At this rate if left unchecked, US will try to get away with statoning troops and installing nukes in Tiawan whilsts still officially stating that they dont support independence

Its meaningless words
 

9dashline

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I think it was in my post about the Tomahawk Weapon System, but I remember outlining regions in which US CSGs are likely to operate due to permissive bathymetry, sufficient standoff from the mainland, sufficient proximity to Taiwan, and topographic "depth" provided by landmasses. CSG5 is right about on the inner (meaning closer to the mainland) edge of that zone, and the ARGs are just west of that edge.

I'm not saying that war is going to break out, but I again want to remind folks here that this is what force protection and preparation for a potential onset of hostilities looks like.
Its breaking out, was already decided
 

BoraTas

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They have always supported it. Biden is a lying sack of shit. There is no doubt the Neocons are planning something between now and 2025 before Trump comes in with a wrecking ball.
Yes. Biden publicly lied multiple times. His economic growth estimations are prime examples. Regardless of what is going to happen, American-Chinese relations are entering a new age.
 

zgx09t

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I think it was in my post about the Tomahawk Weapon System, but I remember outlining regions in which US CSGs are likely to operate due to permissive bathymetry, sufficient standoff from the mainland, sufficient proximity to Taiwan, and topographic "depth" provided by landmasses. CSG5 is right about on the inner (meaning closer to the mainland) edge of that zone, and the ARGs are just west of that edge.

I'm not saying that war is going to break out, but I again want to remind folks here that this is what force protection and preparation for a potential onset of hostilities looks like.

You sound like a decent nice guy. Nice to have you here, whatever happens is out of our control, hence we have no responsibilities for it, as a definition.
Of course there are bigger forces at play here, don't matter whatever outcome we all wish for, that's life. I'd go find some delicious meaning of life in my fridge now.
 
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