Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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siegecrossbow

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There is an enormous spectrum of in-between options. It’s not a binary choice of go up guns blazing or don’t bother showing up at all.

The point is that the PLAAF must be ready and willing to go as far as shooting her plane down, but that doesn’t and won’t be the opening move. I think it will be a steadily escalating series of escalating threats and actions before things get that far, with plenty of opportunities for her plane to avoid being shot down by turning around. However, I think if her plane does not turn around past a certain point despite all the escalations, then it will be shot down.

That's my point. Once in the air you must be ready for the worst case scenario, which in this case will result in aerial missile exchange. Don't fly if you think you can bluff them into turning back.

On a lighter note, looks like the MAGAGAs hate Pelosi even more than the SeeSeePee. 192 likes yikes.

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plawolf

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The other option is to strike the airport.... if her plane cannot land it will have no choice but to turn around....unless she likes skydiving
Why should more Chinese die to save American lives?

Besides, engaging ground targets will have an unacceptable risk of kicking off armed reunification unintentionally.

Fights in the air has a greater chance of staying in the air. You shoot at the ground and what happens if SAMs light you up? You shoot the SAM sites and it’s a slippery slope that’s incredibly hard to get off of.
 

plawolf

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That's my point. Once in the air you must be ready for the worst case scenario, which in this case will result in aerial missile exchange. Don't fly if you think you can bluff them into turning back.

On a lighter note, looks like the MAGAGAs hate Pelosi even more than the SeeSeePee. 192 likes yikes.

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I would go much further. Shooting her plane down isn’t the ‘worst’ scenario that the PLA would be prepared and ready for, not even close.
 

Abominable

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The other option is to strike the airport.... if her plane cannot land it will have no choice but to turn around....unless she likes skydiving
That would be inappropriate response, the Taiwanese authorities don't seem to be playing a role in this. It should be viewed as a US-China affair.

Besides you'd have to hit every airfield in Taiwan to prevent a landing, and even then they could make an emergency landing on a field somewhere
 

texx1

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My personal view is that if there is no point of interception if they can’t prevent Pelosi’s plane from landing. If her plane lands despite military action from the PRC side it would be a major propaganda boon.
An interception (but no shooting) needs to happen whether it is successful or not. Ideally, PLA jets should accompany/escort Pelosi into Taiwan proper, no more weakly poking around the median line nonsense.

For domestic consumption reasons, Xi needs to be seen as doing something about this highly provocative visit (given the timing, 20th congress, PLA anniversary), something none of his predecessors had done before. Otherwise it would make him look weak and arguably unfit to continue ruling especially after he publicly told Biden not to play with fire in his call.

Even if Pelosi's jet managed to land under PLA escorts, Chinese public would probably understand and likely forgive Xi as PLA jets breaching of Taiwanese airspace over the island can be classified as a victory of sorts. This would allow Xi to save face and give him political cover since he could claim that PLA properly asserted PRC's sovereignty over Taiwan airspace proper. It would set a precedent and deter other foreign politicians making highly provocative visits because US airforce is unlikely to provide armed escorts to politicians from other countries. In an awkward way, all parties could claim victory.

Anyway, all of this assume that US, PRC and Taiwan (in the interest of avoiding war) decide to keep their heads cool and trigger happy mavericks away from the air operation.
 
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