Ladakh Flash Point

[PiSigma]

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The tribes and petty kingdoms in South Asia also kicked English butt by killing 50 Englishmen and only losing 20 million stronk super warriors. Due to beating the English and having pity on them, all of India is allowed to be ruled by London for several hundred years. Sarcasm off

If they think Galwan is a victory, what does defeat look like? 1962?

 

[manqiangrexue]

If they think Galwan is a victory, what does defeat look like? 1962?

They won that too. If one Indian is still alive, he won and will make himself a medal. If they all died, their ghosts will celebrate winning together because they'll assume they've killed thier enemies so badly they died and came back to life (several times) while Indians only just died.

 

[Phead128]

I think if India and China can work out a solution over the disputed territories, it would be good for the long term prospects of both nations as we both overturn Western hegemony.

India, which was directly annexed/colonized by the West, should see/know divide-and-conquer tactics when they see one. The Chinese Civilization has never invaded/annexed India, whereas the Muslim and Christian Civilizations have invaded and colonized India. India should see friendship where it exists. But alas, maybe I am day dreaming since Kashmir is integral to both national formation of India/Pakistan, this issue won't be solved easily. So maybe China will just leave it on the back burner.

 

[Mohsin77]

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I'd wager that if India hadn't completely screwed up the last three years in a row (Balakot, Ladakh, Covid-strategy) they wouldn't be focusing on the S-400 purchase and nazi-nationalism that much. I remember this criticism started in the NY Times and Washington Post right after the Mig splash in 2019. India is trying to show itself as a 'counterweight' to China and yet it's making it clear that it is indeed a "liability," and the obvious weak link in the 'quad' chain.

 

[lych470]

This would make a great tourist attraction down the road.

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[plawolf]

Sounds like bullshit.

 

[Godzilla]

Sounds like bullshit.

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Here is one of the links from sina.

 

[ougoah]

Wow so both sides kept late 2020 clash relatively tight lipped. But there was chatter back in October and November about many more clashes from Chinese state mouthpieces and Indians alike.

By the looks of it based on what is said, Indians suffered significant losses and captives.

Could some of the photos released by China months ago have actually been from late 2020 instead of mid 2020 (we were assuming all the photos and videos were from June 2020 and before that). India agreed to buffer deals in December 2020. If there was another clash in November 2020, it could have been what made India agree to deals.

 

[twineedle]

Wow so both sides kept late 2020 clash relatively tight lipped. But there was chatter back in October and November about many more clashes from Chinese state mouthpieces and Indians alike.

By the looks of it based on what is said, Indians suffered significant losses and captives.

Could some of the photos released by China months ago have actually been from late 2020 instead of mid 2020 (we were assuming all the photos and videos were from June 2020 and before that). India agreed to buffer deals in December 2020. If there was another clash in November 2020, it could have been what made India agree to deals.

The reason why both sides reached a disengagement deal was because China dropped its initial conditions of "equidistant disengagement'" which would have required India to completely leave the finger area, in the fall.
This is what China had been demanding in earlier talks.

For some reason, China dropped its conditions between the 5th and 6th round of talks. Exactly why is debateable.

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There were also no major clashes in fall/winter of 2020, at least not according to any reputeable sources

 

[twineedle]

Wow so both sides kept late 2020 clash relatively tight lipped. But there was chatter back in October and November about many more clashes from Chinese state mouthpieces and Indians alike.

By the looks of it based on what is said, Indians suffered significant losses and captives.

Could some of the photos released by China months ago have actually been from late 2020 instead of mid 2020 (we were assuming all the photos and videos were from June 2020 and before that). India agreed to buffer deals in December 2020. If there was another clash in November 2020, it could have been what made India agree to deals.

all of those photos were from Galwan, where disengagement occurred in July 2020.