Yemen Crisis/Conflict & the "Decisive Storm" Coalition

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  1. Jura
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    Yesterday at 7:47 AM
    ... and this night
    'We are not natural-born enemies of Iran,' Saudi U.N. envoy says
    source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-security-iran-ministry-idUSKBN0UI0HZ20160105
     
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    In an article in Asia Times Ambassador Bhadrakumar gives this list of missile attacks into Saudi Arabia:
    From: http://atimes.com/2016/01/pakistan-reassures-saudi-arabia-of-support/
    He mentions more missile strikes than I remember reading about. I'm very sure my Dutch newspaper mentioned very few. How is the war really going?
     
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    I don't know, but read this article a moment ago:
    Saudi-led airstrikes and the Sunni/Shi’a divide have led to a drastic humanitarian crisis in Yemen
    source, no idea how credible: https://politicsbulletin.wordpress.com/category/the-middle-east/
     
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    now I found the map below (on Twitter, comes from a group which seems to relatively accurately cover the conflict in Syria, so I doubt it's pure fan-art); if it was genuine, it would mean territorial LOSSES of the Saudi-led coalition at places (as it should follow from the wiki map further below), after some nine months of the campaign, including actually chunks of Saudi territory, which would be pathetic:

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    If the Saudis are indeed making such a mess of what should have been a total cakewalk of a campaign against a hopelessly outmatched foe, they better pray they never get their wish and have a throw down with Iran directly.

    Although it was pretty clear from the get go that the Saudi mission was high risk.

    Leaving aside the obvious question marks over the competence and commitment of Saudi troops, one of the cardinal rules of foreign military adventurism is to not crap where you live.

    Even Europe is finding out the hard way that inciting uprising and conflicts too close to home can cause serious blowback from refugees alone from somewhere as 'far' away as Syria. The Saudis picking a fight with someone they share a porous and long land boarder with was just asking for trouble.

    Now the Saudis are stuck. They cannot win this outright without serious outside help, but no one looks remotely interested in sticking their nose in that bowl of mess. With Yemen literally being next door, I cannot imagine walking away is a viable option either, since doing so and leaving a hostile faction in power is bound to cause all sorts of long term problems for Saudi internal security.

    In their own way, the Saudis royals can be as divorced from reality and good common sense as the North Korean ruling class at times.
     
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    Although published over 10yrs I found this book "Arabs at War" by K Pollock very informative on the performance of Arab armies
     
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    The maps are stylized and there is a lot of sparsely or unpopulated desert and mountains involved so I would interpret the limited differences in between those maps as mostly stalemate.
     
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    now I found a video which purports to show a Saudi M1A2S Abrams captured (intact?) INSIDE of Saudi Arabia, in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Khubah area,
    by Houthis who then blasted it off:
     
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    I have a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach Western neocons will trot out the "responsibility to protect" mantra again and argue for yet another invasion. Dear Lord, make 'em stop!
     
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    Looks to have either broke down or ran out of fuel, and was abandoned. Which would explain why the Houthis blew it up rather than drove off with it.

    Sloppy that the Saudis didn't scuttle the tank and allowed the Houthis to take it intact.

    Who knows what equipment and/or Intel they managed to gather from it.
     
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