Yemen Crisis/Conflict & the "Decisive Storm" Coalition


Zool

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You know, the Houthis say they do this every so often and claim huge casualties.

Defense News (who apparently cannot even do enough editing to correct the spelling in their title) and a couple of others pick it up (usually Iranian Sympathetic outlets) and report it as fact.

Then...nothing.

I have not seen one of these claims to date backed up by any large, credible news organization, that list those killed, or that are ultimately reported by the forces who supposedly lost people, or are verified in the least.

I will wait for that type of reporting on this one too.
I can't speak to other reports you read which may or may not contain factual information. This attack I have posted did indeed happen and senior Saudi Coalition personnel are confirmed dead:
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It's definitely within the realm of possibility for a SSM to hit a large military installation or concentration of forces. Whether that is due to skill or luck is difficult to discern unless there is a pattern across a number of incidents.
 

delft

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It's definitely within the realm of possibility for a SSM to hit a large military installation or concentration of forces. Whether that is due to skill or luck is difficult to discern unless there is a pattern across a number of incidents.
They must have had good information that a worthwhile target was there and the ability to point the missile in the right direction. It seems they also had some luck to hit it so very successfully.
 
Saudi Arabia purportedly close to loosing a BIG TOWN INSIDE of Saudi Arabia
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which sounds so improbable I don't bother with posting the link(s), but at the same time I wonder ... could it be true? what the heck is going on down there, with the zillions they've been spending ... shouldn't the campaign have been over by now??
 
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Saudi Arabia purportedly close to loosing a BIG TOWN INSIDE of Saudi Arabia
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which sounds so improbable I don't bother with posting the link(s), but at the same time I wonder ... could it be true? what the heck is going on down there, with the zillions they've been spending ... shouldn't the campaign have been over by now??
Definitely not much transparency nor much reporting by the "free" media on this conflict. Even scarcer mainstream reporting than on Saudi Arabia's participation in crushing Bahrain's Arab spring.
 

janjak desalin

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Definitely not much transparency nor much reporting by the "free" media on this conflict. Even scarcer mainstream reporting than on Saudi Arabia's participation in crushing Bahrain's Arab spring.
Notice the silence from certain quarters when "questionable" reporting is corroborated by a "large, credible news organization"!
If it weren't so, predictably, presumptuous and common, it might be funny!
 

plawolf

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Saudi Arabia purportedly close to loosing a BIG TOWN INSIDE of Saudi Arabia
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which sounds so improbable I don't bother with posting the link(s), but at the same time I wonder ... could it be true? what the heck is going on down there, with the zillions they've been spending ... shouldn't the campaign have been over by now??
Money don't buy you victory. It takes men on the ground fighting with grit, determination and heart to win battles and wars.

The Saudis don't really have much of a reputation for being down with getting their own manicured hands dirty with menial tasks they deem beneath their station.
 

plawolf

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Definitely not much transparency nor much reporting by the "free" media on this conflict. Even scarcer mainstream reporting than on Saudi Arabia's participation in crushing Bahrain's Arab spring.
The western media is still the same propaganda tool it always was. It's just been outsourced to the private sector and become a hell of a lot better at hiding its true nature from the casual observer.

'Free' news media are owned by faceless corporate entities and you will need teams of top lawyers and forensic accountants years to unearth their true ownership structures.

The age of the old celebrity News Barons like the Murdocks are over, the modern News Barons of the digital age prefer to remain unknown and hidden. But one only needs to look at the near universal adherence to certain party lines, especially when they run contrary to the truth and common sense, of the 'free' media to know that 'free' media isn't remotely as free or independent as the advertisements claims.

Today, journalists are rewarded for writing and saying the right things with jobs and promotions, and kept in line by corporate lawyers, statisticians and accountants on legal, ratings and revenue grounds.

The tools are far more refined than the edicts and directives that the likes of China still employ, but the effects are the same, if not better, since often the journalists being controlled and manipulated down realise what is going on themselves, never mind the target audience, and it's all too easy to dismiss any who do cotton on as paranoid and bitter conspiracy theorists looking to blame othe for their own lack of success in the news business.
 
I think it's indirectly related to this Thread:
at first I noticed in Russian Internet for example
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now in the Guardian ...
Shia Muslims protest over killing of Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr – video
Dozens of Shia Muslims march in the village of Al Awamiyah, Saudi Arabia, in protest over the execution of Shia cleric Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr. In October 2015 Saudi Arabia’s supreme court rejected an appeal against the death sentence passed earlier on Nimr, who had called for pro-democracy demonstrations. Nimr was one of 47 people executed for terrorism by Saudi Arabia
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is that place)

... and at yahoo.com
Saudi execution of Shiite cleric sparks outrage
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Yesterday at 11:33 AM
I think it's indirectly related to this Thread:
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Saudi execution of Shiite cleric sparks outrage
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and later in the day/tonight
Saudi Arabia cuts diplomatic ties with Iran
Iranian diplomatic mission asked to leave the kingdom within 48 hours as Saudis evacuate embassy staff from Tehran
Saudi Arabia has announced it is severing diplomatic ties with Iran following Saturday's attack on its embassy in Tehran during protests against executions in the kingdom.

Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister, made the announcement on Sunday while the foreign ministry said it was asking Iranian diplomatic mission to leave the kingdom within 48 hours.

The Saudi foreign ministry also announced that the staff of its diplomatic mission had been evacuated and were on their way back to the kingdom.

Later reports said the flight carrying the Saudi embassy staff had landed in Dubai in the UAE.

Saudi Arabia's interior ministry announced on Saturday the execution of 47 people on terrorism charges, including a convicted al-Qaeda leader and a Shia religious leader.

Many of the men executed had been linked to attacks in Saudi Arabia between 2003 and 2006, blamed on al-Qaeda.

Four of those executed were said to be Shia.

Nimr al-Nimr, the Shia leader, was accused of inciting violence and leading anti-government protests in the country's east in 2011. He was convicted of sedition, disobedience and bearing arms.

He did not deny the political charges against him, but said he never carried weapons or called for violence.

Nimr spent more than a decade studying theology in predominantly Shia Iran.

His execution prompted demonstrations in a number of countries, with protesters breaking into the Saudi embassy in Tehran late on Saturday night and starting fires.

At Sunday's press conference in Riyadh, Jubeir said the Saudi diplomatic representative had sought help from the Iranian foreign ministry when the building was stormed, but the requests were ignored three times.

He accused the Iranian authorities of being complicit in the attack, saying that documents and computers were taken from the embassy building.

Calling the incident an act of "aggression", he said Iran had a history of "violating diplomatic missions", citing the attacks on the US embassy in Tehran in 1979 and the British embassy in 2011.

"These ongoing aggressions against diplomatic missions are a violation of all agreements and international conventions," he said, calling them part of an effort by Iran to "destabilise" the region.

Speaking to Al Jazeera from Beirut, Lebanon, Joseph Kechichian, a Middle East analyst, said the Saudi decision was "quite a surprise".

"This is an escalation that will create havoc in the region," he said, referring to the latest developments.

Iranian action

Earlier on Sunday, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani ordered the arrest and prosecution of individuals involved in the embassy attack, while also condemning the execution of Nimr.

Asked at the press conference what other steps the Saudis would take against Iran, Jubeir said "we will cross each bridge when we will get to it".

"We are determined not to allow Iran to undermine our security," he said.

Ellie Geranmayeh, an Iran expert at the European Council on Foreign Relations, said the Saudi decision was likely to have repercussions for the region, particularly concerning the Syrian negotiations.

"Western powers must increase efforts to safeguard this process and encourage the Saudis and Iran to continue their participation [in the Syria peace talks]," she told Al Jazeera from London.

"These events further set back the urgently needed rapprochement between Tehran and Riyadh, and spell further trouble for an already fragile region."
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(I picked up AlJazeera because it was the most recent article in English I had found using google)
 

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