Yemen Crisis/Conflict & the "Decisive Storm" Coalition

asif iqbal

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Saudi drew down its forces in Yemen as soon the Russians opened up in Syria

If Russia did not declare "mission accomplished" in Syria the chances of a massive Saudi land incursion was very high

Any such incursion would be helped by joint Turkish attack

Saudi had mobilised it's armoured division just north of the country and F15 had landed in Incirlink air base
 
Yesterday at 5:59 PM
any interest in this war at all? perhaps there should be as U.S. reveals troops on the ground in Yemen

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US military admits troops are operating inside Yemen to combat al-Qaida
The US military has for the first time publicly acknowledged that US troops are operating inside
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to help the country’s government and a Saudi-backed coalition confront al-Qaida affiliated forces.

Defense department spokesman Navy captain Jeff Davis said on Friday that a “very small number” of military personnel has in recent weeks been working with Yemeni and Arab Coalition forces to push al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) fighters from the port city of Mukalla.

The Pentagon has stepped up air strikes against the jihadists in the war-torn country, Davis said.

“This is of great interest to us. It does not serve our interests to have a terrorist organization in charge of a port city, and so we are assisting in that,” the spokesman added.

He said the troops were helping Emirati forces with “intelligence support”, but declined to say if they are special operations forces.

While the number of US personnel on the ground is limited, the US is also offering an array of assistance to partners in
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, including air-to-air refueling capabilities, surveillance, planning, maritime security and medical help.

The US Navy also has several ships nearby, including an amphibious assault ship called the USS Boxer and two destroyers.

AQAP took advantage of the chaos of fighting between pro-government forces and Iran-backed rebels to expand its control in southern Yemen, including the seizure of Mukalla in April last year.

The Pentagon announced it has carried out a recent string of strikes on AQAP in recent weeks, outside of Mukalla.

“We have conducted four counterterrorism strikes against AQAP since 23 April, killing 10 Al-Qaeda operatives and injuring another,” Davis said.

The US periodically conducts such attacks on AQAP targets in Yemen, including a strike in March on a training camp that killed more than 70 fighters.

AQAP, which has long been entrenched in Yemen, is regarded by Washington as the network’s most dangerous branch and has carried out deadly attacks on the West.
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Yesterday at 5:59 PM
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... while, according to Military.com,
American Troops in Yemen Signals Deepening US Involvement in Mideast
A small team of U.S. troops was on the ground in Yemen and
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aboard were offshore to support friendly forces against an al-Qaeda offshoot as the U.S. deepened its involvement in yet another Mideast civil war, the Pentagon said Friday.

Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, declined to say how many U.S. troops were in Yemen near the port city of Mukalla, a former stronghold of the al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula terror group, or whether they were
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Davis said it was a "very small team" that had been sent into Yemen two weeks ago and was expected to be withdrawn soon. "We view this as short term," he said.

In addition, the U.S. has been conducting anti-terror airstrikes in Yemen against the terror organization apart from the effort to assist local forces on the ground, Davis said. Four airstrikes since April 23 had killed an estimated 10 fighters, he said.

The amphibious assault ship USS Boxer, lead ship for an amphibious ready group with Marines from the 13th Marine Expeditionary Unit aboard, and two
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, the USS Gravely and the USS Gonzalez, were also positioned off Mukalla, Davis said.

The troops on the ground and the ships offshore together were providing "airborne intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, advice and assistance with operational planning, maritime interdiction and security operations, medical support and aerial refueling," Davis said.

At a Pentagon briefing, the spokesman was vague on the mission of the troops but stressed that they were not advising and assisting friendly forces much like similar teams embedded in Iraq and Syria.

After some back and forth with reporters on the semantics of how to characterize the troops, Davis said it was appropriate to call them an "intelligence support team. We have a small number of people who have been providing intelligence support."

Davis said that the U.S. troops were supporting forces of the United Arab Emirates, but in a sign of the complexity of Yemen's civil war, forces of Yemen's embattled government and troops from Saudi Arabia were also involved in the drive to oust al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula from Mukalla.

The Saudi Embassy in Washington said in a statement "Saudi forces are also on the ground alongside the UAE forces in Mukalla and that it is a Saudi-led Arab Coalition that is fighting AQAP alongside the U.S. military contingent on the ground."

The U.S. National Counter-Terrorism Center has described the terror group as "a Sunni extremist group based in Yemen that has orchestrated numerous high-profile attacks" against the U.S. It was the organization that sent Nigerian-born Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab on a Northwest Airlines flight over Detroit on Christmas day 2009 to detonate explosives in his pants but other passengers foiled the attack.

The group's most prominent operative was the charismatic Anwar al-Awlaki, a dual U.S. and Yemeni citizen, who communicated with Army Maj. Nidal Hasan prior to Hasan's shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Texas, in 2009, killing 13 people. Al-Awlaki was killed by a U.S. drone strike in Yemen in September 2011.

Davis said that the organization remained fixated on attacking the U.S. "This is of great interest to us. It does not serve our interests to have a terrorist organization in charge of a port city, and so we are assisting in that," he said.

Yemen's civil war has killed more than 6,200 people, displaced more than 2.5 million and caused a humanitarian catastrophe in one of the world's poorest countries, according to the United Nations and human rights groups.

The war began in March 2015 when Houthi rebels, members of the Shia Zaydi sect and backed by Iran, overran the capital of Sanaa, forcing the government of Abd Rabbo Mansour Hadi to flee. A month later, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula took over Mukalla.

Saudi Arabia then came to the aid of Hadi, forming a coalition of Arab states including Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Senegal and Sudan.

Davis said the U.S. involvement was specifically aimed at "at routing AQAP from Mukalla, and that has largely occurred," suggesting that the ships and troops would quickly be withdrawn.
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any interest in this war at all? ...
based on the most recent interview with
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it seems even Saudi Arabia is loosing an interest (plus (tiny) parts of its own territory! if one believed this map:
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Money does not always buy victories :)
 
Yesterday at 8:13 AM
... if one believed this map:
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I tried to verify, found this map at the site unrelated to the Russian one above:
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81.8 12.9 2949
Money does not always buy victories :)
in other words, using their fortune to purchase tens of thousands of tons of so called high-tech equipment, since
Date 26 March 2015 – present
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the Saudis have been trying to conquer the territory shown in yellow above EDIT and have been keeping out by guys wearing "sneakers" ... I think already at this point, their "Decisive Storm" can be called a rather pathetic military operation
 
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Yesterday at 8:13 AM

I tried to verify, found this map at the site unrelated to the Russian one above:
CiKWfuYW0AEHrA1.jpg


in other words, using their fortune to purchase tens of thousands of tons of so called high-tech equipment, since
Date 26 March 2015 – present
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the Saudis have been trying to conquer the territory shown in yellow above EDIT and have been keeping out by guys wearing "sneakers" ... I think already at this point, their "Decisive Storm" can be called a rather pathetic military operation

I disagree with your assessment. The Saudi operation retook Aden and other territory for its local faction, hemmed in its opponents and continues to lay siege to that territory, and has unchallenged air and naval dominance bombarding opposing forces and territory at will. That's a war of attrition that Saudi Arabia can only win despite the very limited offensive actions the opposing force has proven itself capable of. The Saudis are rightly hesitant to launch a ground invasion into rugged and urban terrain in the homeland of the Houthis. It would be much bloodier for both sides and can only bring negative political pressure on the Saudis, if not military pressure as well elsewhere.
 

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I disagree with your assessment. The Saudi operation retook Aden and other territory for its local faction, hemmed in its opponents and continues to lay siege to that territory, and has unchallenged air and naval dominance bombarding opposing forces and territory at will. That's a war of attrition that Saudi Arabia can only win despite the very limited offensive actions the opposing force has proven itself capable of. The Saudis are rightly hesitant to launch a ground invasion into rugged and urban terrain in the homeland of the Houthis. It would be much bloodier for both sides and can only bring negative political pressure on the Saudis, if not military pressure as well elsewhere.

Saudi failed at their original objective, which is restore Hadi to the government for the ENTIRE country. So ya, their military campaign is a quagmire
 
I disagree with your assessment. The Saudi operation retook Aden and other territory for its local faction, hemmed in its opponents and continues to lay siege to that territory, and has unchallenged air and naval dominance bombarding opposing forces and territory at will. That's a war of attrition that Saudi Arabia can only win despite the very limited offensive actions the opposing force has proven itself capable of. The Saudis are rightly hesitant to launch a ground invasion into rugged and urban terrain in the homeland of the Houthis. It would be much bloodier for both sides and can only bring negative political pressure on the Saudis, if not military pressure as well elsewhere.
LOL you sound more positive than Saudis Propaganda guy EDIT quoted below:
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it seems even Saudi Arabia is loosing an interest ...
but only time can tell: who believed Frederick the Great after Kolberg had fallen in 1761 ... (my favorite story, sorry, Prussia was about to loose the Seven Years' War, but Russian Tsaress suddenly died etc.)
 
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Saudi failed at their original objective, which is restore Hadi to the government for the ENTIRE country. So ya, their military campaign is a quagmire

If the Saudis went into Houthi home territory on the ground then it'd be a quagmire.

LOL you sound more positive than Saudis Propaganda guy EDIT quoted below:
Yesterday at 8:13 AM

but only time can tell: who believed Frederick the Great after Kolberg had fallen in 1761 ... (my favorite story, sorry, Prussia was about to loose the Seven Years' War, but Russian Tsaress suddenly died etc.)

That shows the Saudis know better than get themselves into a high cost low return situation in Yemen when they are involved in conflicts on multiple fronts and need the flexibility to shift focus on multiple priorities.
 
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That shows the Saudis know better than get themselves into a high cost low return situation in Yemen when they are involved in conflicts on multiple fronts and need the flexibility to shift focus on multiple priorities.
Have you heard of the style of the Saudi air-campaign? like targeting buildings of the World Heritage Site etc., something I found loathsome, while "involved in conflicts on multiple fronts and need the flexibility to shift focus on multiple priorities"
 
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