The War in the Ukraine

TK3600

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So what's the Russian play now? Continue to strike at power infrastructure in hopes that Ukranian civilians pressure the government to sue for peace? Even if there is peace it's unlikely that the West will remove sanctions for the foreseeable future, afterwards Russia will be forever tied with China at the hip.
Instead of going after Ukrainian military Russia seems to be going after EU. By cutting off Ukraine's ability to supply electricity Europe will have a harder time to stay in the conflict. Ultimately Russia is just waiting for EU to pull back support first. On the military side things are stalling indefinitely.
 

Tam

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Tam seems to have missed the part where the contracts of Russian soldiers were extended indefinitely. Russia had a manpower shortage from day 1. They invaded with only 180,000 troops, whereas realistically they required 3 times that much to achieve their objectives.

The BTGs were undermanned from the start: under normal conditions a large chunk of the infantry was supposed to be filled with recruits. However, they were not allowed to partake in the invasion of Ukraine resulting in mech heavy BTGs with far too few infantry. This led to quick attrition of BTGs and their eventual collapse as a fighting unit concept in the Russian Army.

For the most part this 180,000 manage to destroy the pre war Ukrainian Army NATO spent 8 years in building, and the war would have ended there if the Ukrainians were not reinforced. It wasn't sufficient for the new NATO proxy army with thousands of not tens of thousands of mercenaries and Western supplied arms. That's when Putin decided to mobilize when he realizes it's no longer the Ukrainian Army he is fighting.
 
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Tam

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Pickups and trucks are no match to artillery with high explosive fragmentation. The idea of using technicals is becoming a bad one. Some Ukrainian vehicles here getting smashed by artillery.



The Akasya has proven itself to be a great workhorse for both sides. This Ukrainian one however might have been popped by a Krasnopol which ironically can be fired from said vehicle.


 

Tam

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Detailed account of an armed reconnaissance assault by Ukraine by @milchronicles. Note the weapons used.

Disruption of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Zaporozhye: details

On the morning of November 25, while trying to probe the line of defense of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the Pologovsky district of the Zaporozhye region, large forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed. Up to five battalions of the 65th and 110th mechanized brigades of the Ukrainian army were involved in the attack.

The offensive, the problems with the preparation of which the Military Chronicle
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earlier, was undertaken south of Gulyaipole and the village of Zheleznodorozhnoye (25 km north of the town of Pologi).

A few hours before the main strike, officers of the 3rd separate regiment of the Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and employees of the SBU center “A” with NLAW anti-tank systems were liquidated near the positions of the RF Armed Forces. Their conversations were detected by the Leer-3 electronic intelligence complex.

The column of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was detected by the Orlan-30 drone on the T-04-01 highway. As expected, the shortage of heavy equipment forced the Ukrainian troops to advance light: instead of a dozen tanks, British Husky TSV and Mastiff armored vehicles were thrown into battle. The movement was covered by two T-64BV tanks of the 1st Tank Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They were destroyed by 152 mm Krasnopol guided missiles.

After the artillery strike, Mi-28NM combat helicopters arrived at the place of detection of the column of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, finishing off the Ukrainian troops with 30-mm 2A42 cannons and Ataka ATGMs.

An attempt to identify weaknesses in the defense of the RF Armed Forces cost the Armed Forces of Ukraine at least 40 people killed, about 200 were seriously injured. Many of the "300" were abandoned during the flight of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the fields between Gulyaipole and Dorozhnyanka.

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Sinnavuuty

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Detailed account of an armed reconnaissance assault by Ukraine by @milchronicles. Note the weapons used.

Disruption of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Zaporozhye: details

On the morning of November 25, while trying to probe the line of defense of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the Pologovsky district of the Zaporozhye region, large forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed. Up to five battalions of the 65th and 110th mechanized brigades of the Ukrainian army were involved in the attack.

The offensive, the problems with the preparation of which the Military Chronicle
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earlier, was undertaken south of Gulyaipole and the village of Zheleznodorozhnoye (25 km north of the town of Pologi).

A few hours before the main strike, officers of the 3rd separate regiment of the Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and employees of the SBU center “A” with NLAW anti-tank systems were liquidated near the positions of the RF Armed Forces. Their conversations were detected by the Leer-3 electronic intelligence complex.

The column of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was detected by the Orlan-30 drone on the T-04-01 highway. As expected, the shortage of heavy equipment forced the Ukrainian troops to advance light: instead of a dozen tanks, British Husky TSV and Mastiff armored vehicles were thrown into battle. The movement was covered by two T-64BV tanks of the 1st Tank Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They were destroyed by 152 mm Krasnopol guided missiles.

After the artillery strike, Mi-28NM combat helicopters arrived at the place of detection of the column of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, finishing off the Ukrainian troops with 30-mm 2A42 cannons and Ataka ATGMs.

An attempt to identify weaknesses in the defense of the RF Armed Forces cost the Armed Forces of Ukraine at least 40 people killed, about 200 were seriously injured. Many of the "300" were abandoned during the flight of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the fields between Gulyaipole and Dorozhnyanka.

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The account seems fanciful, implying that everything went right for the Russians and everything went wrong for the Ukrainians, but that is not the lesson I took away from the post. I thought the southern conflict was at an operational initiative stalemate and that it would take at least 3 weeks to start reorganizing to prepare for an offensive on Zaporozhye, this reconnaissance strike demonstrates that the southern combat can escalate in intensity before the foreseen.
 

Tam

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There was an account of a KUB-BLA drone attack on an ammo dump, and this video might be it, although it didn't catch the drone on flight.

 

Corona

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Yesterday Tornado MRLS hit Ukrainian base in Kramatorsk, killing bunch of foreign tourists. Some devastating use of krasnopol on a cluster of Ukrainian troops and trenches. Video's of the aftermath are still available on some prominent pro Russian accounts.

Nothing gory but, krasnopol in action :

Olena Zelenska well dressed in warm cozy and fine apartment : Ukrainians are ready to live without light and heat for two or three years IF they can see the prospect of EU membership and EU family.
 

Tam

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Yesterday Tornado MRLS hit Ukrainian base in Kramatorsk, killing bunch of foreign tourists. Some devastating use of krasnopol on a cluster of Ukrainian troops and trenches. Video's of the aftermath are still available on some prominent pro Russian accounts.

Nothing gory but, krasnopol in action :

Grup V appears to be an artillery unit. As you can see, they are Krasnopol users.

Here they are bombarding positions in Ugladar, an indication the town is already on artillery range. That column of smoke is an indication of a fuel depot that was hit.


KUB UAV clears out a depot. For it to be used that way, as ammo and weapons depots tend to be well behind front lines, the UAV must have a longer range. The spotter drone appears to fly at greater heights now and has infrared.

 
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