Latvia Estonia Lithuania Poland governments advise their citizens to leave Russia. Makes me wonder if Ukraine will try to attack Russia itself if Russia absorbs the 4 separatist territories.
The War in the Ukraine
- Thread starter SampanViking
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With the situation presently, the pipeline busting can kick Russia in high gear on pass the ''war'' bill and can provoke border closure. Any citizens from NATO country should leave if they are stupid enough to still be there... border closure will solve mobilized form quiting and cut saboteurs from outside coming in.
There is an entire Wikipedia page dedicated to Ukrainian attacks on Russian proper.
Pretty sure the US did as well in like the last 24-76 hours.
If your first-rate military is losing ground to Isis charges in pickup, you're not a first rate military... If anyone has said Russians would get encircled 6 months ago they would get laughed out of these forums.
Iraq demonstrated that one pretty well. They had M1A1s and F-16s from the US, and still got rolled over by ISIS fighters in pickups while taking ridiculous 25 to 1 loss ratios. Russia isn't as bad as Iraq but Ukraine isn't as bad as ISIS.
A more apt description would be the Toyota war fought between Chad and Libya, where a force of highly mobile Chadian light infantry was able to inflict devastating losses on the heavily armed Libyans, also complete with foreign assistance! (France), while we don't have any solid numbers on casualty figures, Russia has lost a lot of equipment so far, definitely more than Ukraine since they didn't have much to begin with.
Not really. Follow the Syrian-ISIS war closely towards the latter part until the Russians wiped out ISIS. The moment the other military figured it all out, the pickups didn't stand a chance. The pickups could not hold territory when you have decided to attack strategic positions. You don't seem to be familiar with the Hedgehog strategies used by both the Russians and the Germans in the Second World War. The defender allows itself to be encircled while they are in heavily fortified areas with enough stocks to last. You would learn that using pickups or thin fast moving forces are good for encircling but are incapable of cracking the nuts. The nuts then launch counterattacks on their own in coordination with reserves from the rear counterattacking against a heavily thinned out enemy. This is the Anti-Blitzkrieg, Anti-Deep Battle strategy.
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I doubt that the Russians lost more equipment than Ukraine, much of the equipment lost in the war are due to artillery and air strikes to begin with, and artillery, air and missile strikes are much greater in favor of the Russians than the Ukrainians almost by a factor of 6 to 10 vs. 1.
When something is novel, Chad and ISIS pickups vs. Iraqis and Libyans, you have the advantage of surprise and novelty. But when the other guy figures it all out and adapted to it, then the novelty is all gone. Pickup warfare isn't suited against heavily fortified positions and are unable to defend when it comes to counterattack; the opponent would lay mines and IEDs on the roads, destroy roads, and target your fuel depots.
going by Kherson and Donbass numbers over the summer, the Ukrainians are losing more absolute numbers but less as %of total forces, since Ukrainians are outnumbering Russians 3 to 1. %loss of total forces is what really matters militarily, but Russia still has some cards up its sleeve.
The targeting of Ukrainian infrastructure going right is critical for Russia. Since this has become a war of attrition with no negotiation possible, the best (only?) way that Russia can win is by inflicting crippling pain on the whole of Ukrainian society such that Ukraine cannot continue to fight without a general economic collapse. Unlike the Toyota War, Russia has the capability to inflict crippling damage on the Ukrainian infrastructure necessary to sustain modern society in a way Libya couldn't do to Chad.
No discussion (or suggestion) about De-population of Ukraine via force.
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