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A good article about Taiwan from NYT for once. the mantra of peaceful reunification is dead. Even the most ardent supporter of peaceful resolution give up now . Military solution is the only option according to Oriana Skylar. It won't happened tomorrow but within 5 years
“Even moderate voices in Beijing have been calling for tossing out peaceful reunification,” said
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, a fellow at Stanford University’s Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies. “I think the military option is the option now.”


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‘Starting a Fire’: U.S. and China Enter Dangerous Territory over Taiwan​

The self-ruled island has moved to the heart of deepening discord and rivalry between the two superpowers, with the potential to ignite military conflagration and reshape the regional order.

The 25 Chinese fighter jets, bombers and other warplanes flew in menacing formations off the southern end of Taiwan, a show of military might on China’s National Day, Oct. 1. The incursions,
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, continued into the night and the days that followed and surged to the highest numbers ever on Monday, when 56 warplanes tested Taiwan’s beleaguered air defenses.

As such confrontations intensify, the balance of power around Taiwan is fundamentally shifting, pushing a decades-long impasse over its future into a dangerous new phase.

After holding out against unification demands from China’s communist rulers for more than 70 years, Taiwan is now at the heart of the deepening discord between China and the United States. The island’s fate has the potential to reshape the regional order and even to ignite a military conflagration — intentional or not.

China’s military might has, for the first time, made a conquest of Taiwan conceivable, perhaps even tempting. The United States wants to thwart any invasion but has watched its military dominance in Asia steadily erode. Taiwan’s own military
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has withered, even as its people become increasingly resistant to unification.



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Or the war starts because someone on Taiwan does something stupid.

Doesn't even have to be Taipei, someone with a grudge against the Mainland (pick one, i.e. localists) could try to use Taiwan as a base to launch a 26/11 style attack attempt against a Chinese city.
 

supersnoop

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ASMs aren't small. there's no "pop out of caves and shoot" again and again, it's more like "pop out of caves and the only thing left is to ram the truck". Also, you realize that ASMs do not have terrain distinguishing capabilities, since they don't need them in the ocean or on the coast, right? But if you're firing from an inland cave, whose to say that a random tree or cliff won't provide a radar return or IR imaging return similar to a ship? Whose to say that the missile can maneuver around a tree?

So this actually is somewhat more dangerous.
There exists both HF-2 and HF-3 truck mobile launcher. You cannot hide them once out, but assuming you have a number of staging areas along the western coastal highway, you can quickly scramble them out to fire.

By then it will be too late for any kind of air attack, as you said, just hitting the empty truck.

So it’s important for EW attack make it as difficult as possible to get a good lock on landing craft. Also, from followers of the 54A/B thread, small AD FFG could provide an effective close screen with smaller quad pack high speed SAM.
 
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Nutrient

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The real issue for PLA would be those assets which have been hidden/ camouflaged. Finding and nixing the pop-out-of-caves missiles would be hard.

The mainland would undoubtedly take out Taiwan's larger radars. So when Taiwan's missiles popped out of their caves, how would they know where their targets were? If the ROC fired those missiles in random directions, that would not do much good.

Maybe Taiwan could send out reconnaisance drones first, in hope of getting a decent picture of the theatre despite the loss of their major radars. Then perhaps their pop-out missiles would have something to aim at. However, the PLA would undoubtedly have foreseen this tactic; they would have some jammers going long since. A tiny drone lacks the power to send a strong intelligence stream through the interference, which means Taiwan would continue to be blind. So their pop-out defenses would be mostly useless.
 

lych470

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So this actually is somewhat more dangerous.
There exists both HF-2 and HF-3 truck mobile launcher. You cannot hide them once out, but assuming you have a number of staging areas along the western coastal highway, you can quickly scramble them out to fire.

By then it will be too late for any kind of air attack, as you said, just hitting the empty truck.

So it’s important for EW attack make it as difficult as possible to get a good lock on landing craft. Also, from followers of the 54A/B thread, small AD FFG could provide an effective close screen with smaller quad pack high speed SAM.
I guess we'll find out how good PLAN's CIWS and Sea Sparrow equivalents are.

There was recent news that the PLAN has commissioned 30mm rotary cannon CIWS, perhaps for this exact scenario.
 

drowingfish

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So this actually is somewhat more dangerous.
There exists both HF-2 and HF-3 truck mobile launcher. You cannot hide them once out, but assuming you have a number of staging areas along the western coastal highway, you can quickly scramble them out to fire.

By then it will be too late for any kind of air attack, as you said, just hitting the empty truck.

So it’s important for EW attack make it as difficult as possible to get a good lock on landing craft. Also, from followers of the 54A/B thread, small AD FFG could provide an effective close screen with smaller quad pack high speed SAM.
the challenge is not for these missiles to hit the target, it is all the stuff up to that point. yes a truck mobile launcher can come out of cover and fire a missile, but how does that launcher know when to make a move? unless Taiwan still retains the ability to monitor Chinese fleets AND communicate that in a timely manner to the launchers, the kill chain will be incomplete.
 

Michaelsinodef

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There exists both HF-2 and HF-3 truck mobile launcher. You cannot hide them once out, but assuming you have a number of staging areas along the western coastal highway, you can quickly scramble them out to fire.

By then it will be too late for any kind of air attack, as you said, just hitting the empty truck.

So it’s important for EW attack make it as difficult as possible to get a good lock on landing craft. Also, from followers of the 54A/B thread, small AD FFG could provide an effective close screen with smaller quad pack high speed SAM.
Besides what @drowingfish just said, after the big initial attack with missiles and rockets.

China would have air control, and could fill the airspace with various aircraft (including lots of drones), what's to prevent them from attacking rocket launchers and the likes that comes out of hiding?
 

supersnoop

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Besides what @drowingfish just said, after the big initial attack with missiles and rockets.

China would have air control, and could fill the airspace with various aircraft (including lots of drones), what's to prevent them from attacking rocket launchers and the likes that comes out of hiding?

You can’t have 24/7 100% aircraft coverage. There is still air defence to contend with as well. From Zhuhai air show there were many shipping container launched missiles. Should the situation deteriorate, I’m sure it would not be hard to develop something similar in Taiwan.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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You can’t have 24/7 100% aircraft coverage. There is still air defence to contend with as well. From Zhuhai air show there were many shipping container launched missiles. Should the situation deteriorate, I’m sure it would not be hard to develop something similar in Taiwan.
how do they know when to come out and where to shoot? They need recon and fire control which can be denied by hitting those assets.
 

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