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FairAndUnbiased

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Reminder to everyone lest anyone have even a 1% thought that Taiwan is an innocent victim of China, that they would not dare attack civilians, or that both sides are even remotely the same: they are a 100% fascist military dictatorship. Only one side is just and moral.

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In the morning of 7 March 1987, a boat carrying Vietnamese refugees who had been rejected in Hong Kong earlier arrived in Kinmen requesting
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.

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penetrated through the sky-blue wooden
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without
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. Three unarmed Vietnamese men jumped off the boat, raised their hands, and pled in Chinese, "Don't shoot...!" but were all shot dead instantly.

The platoon members were ordered to execute any surviving refugees. The wounded were buried alive, and those who were still moving or crying were dictated to be killed by military shovels.
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The entire boat was also instructed to be burned down aside from the only 3-blade propeller non-flammable to gasoline, then all buried in sand to destroy all the evidence right away. The last victim, a young boy being hidden underneath a board cell was also found and executed by order without exception. The guarding
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of the BHQ company overnight counted the bodies as more than nineteen.
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The superior officers received no official punishment, and recovered their military career after President Chiang suddenly died in January 1988.

Never forget.
 

Nutrient

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Good for them, make more HF-2 instead of enriching America by buying Harpoons.

Really puts a lot of pressure on PLA EW and radar abilities to be able to counter so many AShM. Also makes sense why HF-2 has backup IR seeker.

Doesn't matter. If Taiwan's anti-ship weapons are large and hence nonmovable, the PLA has enough missiles to take them out in the first salvo. If Taiwan's AShMs are mobile, they are small enough to be destroyed by drones.
 

Xsizor

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Doesn't matter. If Taiwan's anti-ship weapons are large and hence nonmovable, the PLA has enough missiles to take them out in the first salvo. If Taiwan's AShMs are mobile, they are small enough to be destroyed by drones.
The real issue for PLA would be those assets which have been hidden/ camouflaged. Finding and nixing the pop-out-of-caves missiles would be hard.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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The real issue for PLA would be those assets which have been hidden/ camouflaged. Finding and nixing the pop-out-of-caves missiles would be hard.
ASMs aren't small. there's no "pop out of caves and shoot" again and again, it's more like "pop out of caves and the only thing left is to ram the truck". Also, you realize that ASMs do not have terrain distinguishing capabilities, since they don't need them in the ocean or on the coast, right? But if you're firing from an inland cave, whose to say that a random tree or cliff won't provide a radar return or IR imaging return similar to a ship? Whose to say that the missile can maneuver around a tree?
 

Xsizor

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ASMs aren't small. there's no "pop out of caves and shoot" again and again, it's more like "pop out of caves and the only thing left is to ram the truck". Also, you realize that ASMs do not have terrain distinguishing capabilities, since they don't need them in the ocean or on the coast, right? But if you're firing from an inland cave, whose to say that a random tree or cliff won't provide a radar return or IR imaging return similar to a ship? Whose to say that the missile can maneuver around a tree?
No. I'm talking about cruise missiles that has an obvious lofted takeoff or ascend. Same is the case for many missiles. The terrain hugging usually comes later. It won't be a problem to hide these missiles for a deferred launch during the conflict.

ASM aren't small ofcourse as it need to carry meaningful burst to destroy a ship. But... my point was that Taiwan could take measures to hide them. Since it is the weaker party, asymmetrical warfare and unconventional methods are going to be its main tools.
 

Hendrik_2000

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A good article about Taiwan from NYT for once. the mantra of peaceful reunification is dead. Even the most ardent supporter of peaceful resolution give up now . Military solution is the only option according to Oriana Skylar. It won't happened tomorrow but within 5 years
“Even moderate voices in Beijing have been calling for tossing out peaceful reunification,” said
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, a fellow at Stanford University’s Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies. “I think the military option is the option now.”


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‘Starting a Fire’: U.S. and China Enter Dangerous Territory over Taiwan​

The self-ruled island has moved to the heart of deepening discord and rivalry between the two superpowers, with the potential to ignite military conflagration and reshape the regional order.

The 25 Chinese fighter jets, bombers and other warplanes flew in menacing formations off the southern end of Taiwan, a show of military might on China’s National Day, Oct. 1. The incursions,
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, continued into the night and the days that followed and surged to the highest numbers ever on Monday, when 56 warplanes tested Taiwan’s beleaguered air defenses.

As such confrontations intensify, the balance of power around Taiwan is fundamentally shifting, pushing a decades-long impasse over its future into a dangerous new phase.

After holding out against unification demands from China’s communist rulers for more than 70 years, Taiwan is now at the heart of the deepening discord between China and the United States. The island’s fate has the potential to reshape the regional order and even to ignite a military conflagration — intentional or not.

China’s military might has, for the first time, made a conquest of Taiwan conceivable, perhaps even tempting. The United States wants to thwart any invasion but has watched its military dominance in Asia steadily erode. Taiwan’s own military
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has withered, even as its people become increasingly resistant to unification.



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Xsizor

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A good article about Taiwan from NYT for once. the mantra of peaceful reunification is dead. Even the most ardent supporter of peaceful resolution give up now . Military solution is the only option according to Oriana Skylar. It won't happened tomorrow but within 5 years
“Even moderate voices in Beijing have been calling for tossing out peaceful reunification,” said
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, a fellow at Stanford University’s Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies. “I think the military option is the option now.”


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‘Starting a Fire’: U.S. and China Enter Dangerous Territory over Taiwan​

The self-ruled island has moved to the heart of deepening discord and rivalry between the two superpowers, with the potential to ignite military conflagration and reshape the regional order.

The 25 Chinese fighter jets, bombers and other warplanes flew in menacing formations off the southern end of Taiwan, a show of military might on China’s National Day, Oct. 1. The incursions,
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, continued into the night and the days that followed and surged to the highest numbers ever on Monday, when 56 warplanes tested Taiwan’s beleaguered air defenses.

As such confrontations intensify, the balance of power around Taiwan is fundamentally shifting, pushing a decades-long impasse over its future into a dangerous new phase.

After holding out against unification demands from China’s communist rulers for more than 70 years, Taiwan is now at the heart of the deepening discord between China and the United States. The island’s fate has the potential to reshape the regional order and even to ignite a military conflagration — intentional or not.

China’s military might has, for the first time, made a conquest of Taiwan conceivable, perhaps even tempting. The United States wants to thwart any invasion but has watched its military dominance in Asia steadily erode. Taiwan’s own military
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has withered, even as its people become increasingly resistant to unification.



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While tempting, NYT will never get my positive appraisal. China's comprehensive power still isn't mature yet ( semiconductors and other areas are still a question). A Taiwan conflict will affect the entire global economy adversely.

Positive outcome will only come to China if the country manages to increase its comprehensive power atleast 50% more.
 

Orthan

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It won't happened tomorrow but within 5 years
Keep waiting for it. The war thats forever about to start.

I remember almost 30 years ago reading magazines about how there was a lot of tension betwen china and taiwan with the possibility of war. This is a very old topic. People for a long time have been talking about a war betwen the two sides, and this will go on as long as there is PRC and ROC. The forever eminent war.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Keep waiting for it. The war thats forever about to start.

I remember almost 30 years ago reading magazines about how there was a lot of tension betwen china and taiwan with the possibility of war. This is a very old topic. People for a long time have been talking about a war betwen the two sides, and this will go on as long as there is PRC and ROC. The forever eminent war.
Apparently you don't read the article Yes it was talked for a long time But now for the first time China has achieved the military superiority even against the US simulation after simulation prove it. Even the defense minister of Taiwan concede that within 5 years China can overwhelm Taiwan with little cost.

But the deciding factor is that everyone in China now agree that peaceful resolution is impossible. It was unrealistic expectation to begin anyway. So military solution is the only option.
 

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