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If conflict between China and Taiwan begins, the F-16s do not give Taiwan an advantage because the Chinese S-400 has a large enough scope to block airspace.

In this war, helicopters will be more effective. The Z-10 will suppress Taiwan's Abraham tanks at the beach and pave the way for Mi-26 to transfer landing troops.
More likely, PLA drone swarms will hunt Harpoon/HF AShCM batteries, air defense assets in addition to armor formations.
 

FangYuan

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The PLA only has four Mi-26s in their inventory... A more realistic scenario would see Z-10s and Z-19s working in tandem to suppress ground threats while a portion of ground troops rolling off Z-8/Z-18s, and the rest coming off LCACs, bringing with them Type 96 tanks and other armored vehicles to support the ground assault.

Z-18 carries about 27 soldiers. Mi-26 carries 80 soldiers, with a maximum of about 100 to 140 (overload). The Mi-26 is definitely more efficient than the z-8 and z-18

The biggest problem is that China doesn't have the technology to mass produce these helicopters. AVIC therefore cooperated with Russia to develop a new heavy transport helicopter
 
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crash8pilot

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Z-18 carries about 27 soldiers. Mi-26 carries 80 soldiers, with a maximum of about 100 to 140 (overload). The Mi-26 is definitely more efficient than the z-8 and z-18
Like I said, the PLA only has FOUR of them in their inventory. A Type 071 LPD can carry four LCACs - that brings a company worth of ground troops (150 to 200 soldiers) in addition to armored vehicles and tanks to the battlefield. Put in two to three Type 071s in addition to the Type 075 and that's a battalion's worth of soldiers to storm a beach. Sending in multiple LCACs and helos also helps cover more ground, giving the enemy more to worry about rather than sending the brunt of the force on a single helicopter. That's why there isn't a present need for a heavy transport helicopter, when LCACs will be carrying the brunt of the ground assault force, while Z-18s reinforce and add to the numbers from the sky.
 
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gelgoog

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I think a parachute drop to deliver troops in the initial stages is more likely.
All the Taiwanese defensive weapon systems can be destroyed with drones.
Taiwanese air defenses are kind of old. F-16 won't help against low flying drones.
 

crash8pilot

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I think a parachute drop to deliver troops in the initial stages is more likely.
All the Taiwanese defensive weapon systems can be destroyed with drones.
Taiwanese air defenses are kind of old. F-16 won't help against low flying drones.
While airlift would certainly be the preferred method of offloading heavy equipment such as tanks, armored vehicles, and artillery to aid with the assault inland, I'd imagine airports would be primary targets for the initial wave of PLA fighters to take out as part of securing air superiority before the grunts rolled in. As such I think there will be a need for amphibious landings to secure the shores in order to offload said heavy equipment.

Perhaps the tactics of the Battle of Normandy still apply - airborne troops parachute to secure highways and inner roads in order to block ROC reinforcements from countering PLA amphibious landings.
 

ougoah

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If conflict between China and Taiwan begins, the F-16s do not give Taiwan an advantage because the Chinese S-400 has a large enough scope to block airspace.

In this war, helicopters will be more effective. The Z-10 will suppress Taiwan's Abraham tanks at the beach and pave the way for Mi-26 to transfer landing troops.

Not even close in real life. Missiles usually won't have anywhere near enough energy to kill targets at their max ranges and the S-400's reported max range is only for one missile which supposedly isn't designed to intercept small and agile targets. At around 400km? I don't think it'll have any decent chances at hitting fighters. Of course Taiwanese airspace is well within that range but it's quite unlikely China will place S-400s right on the coast either.
 
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