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Gatekeeper

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Russia is many years ahead of China in the field of helicopter development, they have a lot of experience and technology. The Chinese z-10 is not inferior to the Mi-28, but the Mi-28 has its own advantages. Another reason is that China does not have any helicopters similar to the Ka-52. Coaxial rotor is the weak point of China.

Buying weapons from Russia and receiving TOT, China can use Russian technology to continue to improve its weapons. They can integrate the technology of the Mi-28 into the Z-9 or z-10. Or on the basis of the Ka-52, China will develop a more advanced version of coaxial rotors.

The same is true if China buys Mig-35, Su-35 and Su-57 with TOT

Buying weapons from Russia is not just for technology, it is also a political message to Taiwan and the United States.

Every time the United States sells weapons to Taiwan, China will buy weapons from Russia and receive TOT.

Taiwan realizes: they buy weapons that make China stronger and make them weaker.
The United States recognizes that arms sales to Taiwan are benefiting their two enemies. China has technology and Russia has money.




If the US does not sell weapons to Taiwan, China will buy less weapons from Russia
If the US sells weapons to Taiwan, China will buy 10 times more weapons

Enemies of the enemy are friends. Helping an enemy's enemy is the most effective way of hurting an enemy.

Are you serious?

Su57 still in low numbers. Where as J20 is flying around in numbers. Look at the ships of the Russians. Still deploying Soviet ships.

Where have you been hiding for the past 10 to 20 years.
 

gelgoog

Brigadier
Registered Member
Russia is still ahead in some areas like air defense networks, nuclear submarines, armor (somewhat), nuclear icebreakers, Zircon, etc.
I mean just look at the engine on the T-14 Armata. Allegedly goes to 1700hp in emergency mode. It is pretty high tech.
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The Armata is also ahead in terms of armor protection and APS.

China is ahead in artillery, aircraft airframes, naval ships and naval engines, tank fire control systems, electronics in general.
 

Gatekeeper

Brigadier
Registered Member
Russia is still ahead in some areas like air defense networks, nuclear submarines, armor (somewhat), nuclear icebreakers, Zircon, etc.
I mean just look at the engine on the T-14 Armata. Allegedly goes to 1700hp in emergency mode. It is pretty high tech.
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The Armata is also ahead in terms of armor protection and APS.

China is ahead in artillery, aircraft airframes, naval ships and naval engines, tank fire control systems, electronics in general.

I don't think anyone is saying Russian hasn't got any advance stuff. I think we already said and acknowledge that. But some of the stuff that's been proposed for China to purchase like MIG 35. Seriously?

China doesn't need to buy Russian advance stuff to send a message to the US. And the US won't care one way or the other. As it does nothing to hurt US interest.
 

weig2000

Captain
I don't think anyone is saying Russian hasn't got any advance stuff. I think we already said and acknowledge that. But some of the stuff that's been proposed for China to purchase like MIG 35. Seriously?

China doesn't need to buy Russian advance stuff to send a message to the US. And the US won't care one way or the other. As it does nothing to hurt US interest.

It's long being the case that Russia leads China in strategic systems and weapon platforms, these include nuclear submarines, strategic bombers, ICBM due to their large investments during the Cold War era. But Russia is unlikely to sell any of them or share technologies with China. So it's a moot point. In any case, China has been developing the next-generation of these strategic systems and platform for some times now, including 095/096, JL-3, H-20, and is expected to close the gaps within the next decade.

The biggest area where China has gotten help from Russia is aircraft engines, particularly AL-31, and D-30 families powering J-10/J-11/J-15 and H-6/Y-20 respectively. This is probably the single biggest help PLAAF got from Russia. But China has since developed domestic substitutes for these systems and they're either in mature production (WS-10's) or nearing to service (WS-18). The next-generation of these engines are also on the horizon, probably within a few years. These include WS-15, WS-20, and WS-19.

The other area that China has benefited from Russia imports is anti-aircraft missile systems, the latest example being S-400, which China does not have an equivalent. But China does have its indigenous HQ-9 systems, which are advanced long-range anti-aircraft missile systems, even though it's not advanced as S-400. China likely leads in missile defense systems, for example, HQ-19, HQ-26, HQ-29.

There are weapons that China has bought from Russia to complement or augment its production capacity, these include S-35 and Mi-171.
Overall, there are no Russia systems that China is critically dependent on currently, although there are a few systems that will be good additions to China's existing capabilities (S-400, S-35, Mi-117) or subsystems (e.g. D-30) that could potentially support the expansion of production of a few systems.

Within a decade, China should close all the gaps or even more with respective Russia systems, including both strategic and tactical platforms.
 

FangYuan

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If conflict between China and Taiwan begins, the F-16s do not give Taiwan an advantage because the Chinese S-400 has a large enough scope to block airspace.

In this war, helicopters will be more effective. The Z-10 will suppress Taiwan's Abraham tanks at the beach and pave the way for Mi-26 to transfer landing troops.
 

crash8pilot

Junior Member
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If conflict between China and Taiwan begins, the F-16s do not give Taiwan an advantage because the Chinese S-400 has a large enough scope to block airspace.

In this war, helicopters will be more effective. The Z-10 will suppress Taiwan's Abraham tanks at the beach and pave the way for Mi-26 to transfer landing troops.
The PLA only has four Mi-26s in their inventory... A more realistic scenario would see Z-10s and Z-19s working in tandem to suppress ground threats while a portion of ground troops rolling off Z-8/Z-18s, and the rest coming off LCACs, bringing with them Type 96 tanks and other armored vehicles to support the ground assault.
 
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