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emblem21

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Well it's the crossing of another red line. I hate to say this but I am beginning to wonder just how many more red lines PRC will let US cross without consequences.
China is taking there time to combat the USA, just that they don’t use the most obvious strategies and rather they slowly tighten the noose around there necks so that when they are truly ready, it will be game over for the USA
 

Kaeshmiri

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Well it's the crossing of another red line. I hate to say this but I am beginning to wonder just how many more red lines PRC will let US cross without consequences.
Sometimes i wonder whether PRC is waiting for US to places Nukes in Taiwan.
More the delay, less the chances of reunification.
 

supersnoop

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Doesn't sound real.
1. "Taiwan News" seems to be the only source
2. The article uses "Wuhan Virus" which is indicative of FLG/DPP influence, most legitimate outlets have refrained from using this term at this point.
3. From the "About Us", Taiwan News is owned by I Mei Foods. If their accuracy is anything like the since departed Taiwan food conglomerate-owned media WantChinaTimes, then the quality of their "reporting" is probably equally as good
(as in not good in case the sarcasm wasn't obvious)
 

supersnoop

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Taiwan is developing its own drones, but it looks like the earlier versions weren't good enough so have gone back to the drawing board. As I said regarding the Harpoons versus building more HF-IIs and HF-IIIs, Taiwan knows it can get the Harpoons/SeaGuardians within a fixed period, but it cannot know for sure when the domestic options will be available in the same number.

Also, whilst I appreciate that you may not have made this argument, I find it somewhat amusing because for years there were naysayers on this forum saying the Taiwanese domestic defence industry was a joke and just produced a lot of white elephants without mentioning jobs created. It's refreshing to see a different attitude.

1. That doesn't take account of inflation; and
2. They're not SeaGuardian.

Defense programs success/failure are just a matter of political will (assuming we are not talking about bleeding-edge technology like lasers/railguns/etc.). Taiwan has shown itself capable of successfully introducing a number of platforms and systems in the past, I have no reason to believe they cannot continue to do so. For Taiwan, domestic capabilities will probably not be cost effective compared to normal market prices, but they pay captive American prices anyway, so there is no advantage there.

For France example, inflation is not a huge difference for the given time period.
For the UK example, I was throwing out to other posters to see if they had more insight on price/performance/quantity balance.

As the debate above shows, there is a real question about whether this purchase represents a genuine capability enhancement for the price paid. Yes, there is enhanced surveillance capability, but it's highly unlikely that there would not be super obvious signs if there is some kind of imminent PLA invasion coming.

The biggest threat to these drones is not just missiles, but EW capabilities as well. If PLA can bring the drone down into the sea without kinetic weapons, that is ~$100m down the drain for Taiwan's government (huge embarrassment), less repercussions by using electronic means, and probably fear of using them again which makes the entire purchase a waste.
 

supersnoop

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Doesn't sound real.
1. "Taiwan News" seems to be the only source
2. The article uses "Wuhan Virus" which is indicative of FLG/DPP influence, most legitimate outlets have refrained from using this term at this point.
3. From the "About Us", Taiwan News is owned by I Mei Foods. If their accuracy is anything like the since departed Taiwan food conglomerate-owned media WantChinaTimes, then the quality of their "reporting" is probably equally as good
(as in not good in case the sarcasm wasn't obvious)

Nevermind, this article is not fake, but an obvious misdirect.
It is a limited number of USMC instructors, rather than a full on unit or anything like that.

Not the first time since 1979, their own article contradicts this.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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Nevermind, this article is not fake, but an obvious misdirect.
It is a limited number of USMC instructors, rather than a full on unit or anything like that.

Not the first time since 1979, their own article contradicts this.
Wait. Where is the contradiction?
 

supersnoop

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Wait. Where is the contradiction?

From the article:

The U.S. sends small units of elite troops of other branches of the armed forces for joint training missions to Taiwan on an annual basis, but they are rarely acknowledged by the Taiwan government. For example, the ROC Army Aviation and Special Forces Command and United States Army Special Forces (the Green Berets) every year hold a joint exercise called Balance Tamper.

Maybe this is the first time USMC was doing courses? Anyway, clearly not anything of significance otherwise we would hear the usual screaming from PRC about "harming peaceful cross-straits relations", "infringing on the territorial rights of the Chinese nation" or whatever.
 

LawLeadsToPeace

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From the article:



Maybe this is the first time USMC was doing courses? Anyway, clearly not anything of significance otherwise we would hear the usual screaming from PRC about "harming peaceful cross-straits relations", "infringing on the territorial rights of the Chinese nation" or whatever.
Ah I see. Actually, in the article, they said, "This marks the first public confirmation of U.S. military exchanges involving U.S. Marines in Taiwan since the cessation of diplomatic relations between Taiwan and the United States in 1979". They didn't mean it was the first time US military personal trained with ROC forces since 1979.
 
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