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Jura

General
Hell, I'd se them some F-35's while I was in the mood!
That's just China's viewpoint. US and it's allies would condemn it as an aggression.
Yeah, maybe. How about China finances 12 of them, with one of them being delivered to Chengdu and one to Shenyang?

Or China doesn't finance any of them, you sell them at production cost so they could afford it, and 2 months after delivery, China puts their blueprints up on the internet?

Which deal sounds the best to you?
people please don't make non-military posts, or they'll close this thread again
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Russian blogger "bmpd" assumes (
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) they're going to be US overhauled copies of М1А1

anyway here's the related press release
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That’s how you build an A2 Abrams. You pull a mothballed Abrams off the M1A1 fleets left from the post cold war Army reduction then gut it and rebuilt. Unlike the Russians the US doesn’t build new T72 and new T90 tanks for every new order.
 

Jura

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Tuesday at 3:35 PM
Jun 6, 2019
now
US State Dept. OKs possible $2 billion Abrams tank sale to Taiwan
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now noticed the tweet
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China mulls sanctions on US companies involved in arms sales to China's
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in order to safeguard national interests, FM spokesperson said Mon. Neither the Chinese govt nor Chinese companies will conduct cooperation or business exchanges with those companies.
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Jura

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Yesterday at 6:47 PM
Tuesday at 3:35 PM
now noticed the tweet
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China mulls sanctions on US companies involved in arms sales to China's
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in order to safeguard national interests, FM spokesperson said Mon. Neither the Chinese govt nor Chinese companies will conduct cooperation or business exchanges with those companies.
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US needs to get used to China sanctions: experts
Source:Global Times Published: 2019/7/16 21:28:43
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The US should get used to China's sanctions on US companies involved in a possible arms sale to the island of Taiwan, and the US has no right to criticize the sanctions as it does this all the time, Chinese experts said on Tuesday.

The experts' remarks came in response to a Tuesday report by Taiwan-based United Daily News, which quoted a US Department of State spokesperson as saying that the US asked the Chinese government not to impose political views on foreign companies.

After the US government approved a plan to sell $2.22 billion worth of arms to Taiwan, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang announced at a routine press briefing on Friday that to safeguard national interests, China would impose sanctions on US enterprises participating in the sales.

Huo Jianguo, vice chairman of the China Society for World Trade Organization Studies, told the Global Times on Tuesday that in the past, China lacked effective ways to stop US arms sales to the island of Taiwan.

But as China's economy and market have developed and matured, many companies will have to think twice before giving up the Chinese market, according to Huo.

"The US won't feel comfortable with this, but it must get used to it," Huo said.

Looking at what the US has done with Chinese companies like Huawei, "isn't it the US government who has been imposing political views on companies?" said Xin Qiang, deputy director of the center for US studies at Fudan University in Shanghai.

The US has lost its morality and right to accuse China on this matter ever since it imposed sanctions on Chinese companies, Xin noted.

When asked for details on the announced sanctions, Geng said on Friday's briefing that the Chinese government and Chinese businesses will not engage in cooperation or commercial exchanges with the US companies involved.

No company names were given, but media identified Raytheon, General Dynamics, BAE and Oshkosh as the arms suppliers.
 

Jura

General
amusing
US defence giant Honeywell distances itself from Taiwan under threat of China sanctions over arms deal
  • Firm sees ‘no reason why’ it would be sanctioned by Beijing after being linked to the self-ruled island arms deal by Chinese state media
  • People’s Daily and CCTV posted a WeChat article on Sunday also naming Oshkosh Corporation, General Dynamics and Gulfstream Aerospace as suppliers
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After China’s state media named several US firms allegedly threatened by sanctions over arms sales to Taiwan, American aerospace and defence giant Honeywell has said it had “no input” into the agreement between Washington and Taipei.

Both People’s Daily and state broadcaster CCTV posted an article on their official WeChat channels on Sunday criticising Honeywell, Oshkosh Corporation, General Dynamics and its subsidiary Gulfstream Aerospace for their involvement in the sale of tanks and missiles to Taiwan.

“The US arms sale is ‘penny wise, pound-foolish’. They sell weapons to Taiwan but lose their market in China, and their non-military products will be boycotted in China too,” the article read.

“Do not ever underestimate the firm will of the Chinese government and its people to defend national sovereignty and territorial integrity! Do not underestimate China's strength as the world's second-largest economy,” the article warned.

Both official state media channels – viewed as mouthpieces for the government in Beijing – reposted the article from a private account called “Yuyuan Tantian”, which appears to be linked to CCTV. Despite being an unofficial channel, it could be interpreted as a signal sent from Beijing concerning sanctions, about which the Foreign Ministry
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without mentioning specific company names.
In a statement sent to the South China Morning Post, Honeywell said it sees “no reason why Honeywell would be potentially sanctioned by the Chinese government” as the company is a “component provider and [does] not decide where the products are used. This was a government-to-government sale, initiated by the United States government. Honeywell has no input into these agreements and has had no direct dealings with Taiwan.”

Last week, despite strong opposition from Beijing, the US State Department approved a US$2.2 billion arms sale to Taiwan, which includes 108 M1A2T Abrams tanks, 250 Stinger missiles, and 16 M1070A1 heavy equipment transporters.

The WeChat article stated that Honeywell provided essential components for the tanks, which were designed and manufactured by General Dynamics. Oshkosh made the heavy equipment transporters included in the arms sale.

The article also named Gulfstream Aerospace, the highly profitable private jet maker owned by General Dynamics, saying that China is currently the company’s third biggest market. It also said that Oshkosh transporters are used in more than 60 Chinese airports. Meanwhile, CNBC reported that Raytheon manufactured the Stinger missiles; however, it is not mentioned in the WeChat article.

All the named companies have been trying to expand their Chinese markets for years. In 2003, Honeywell moved its Asia-Pacific headquarters from Singapore to Shanghai. In 2017, it paid US$100 million for the land where it had built its headquarters in Shanghai.

To expand its presence in China and Asia-wide, Oshkosh opened a Shanghai office and a Tianjin manufacturing facility in 2008. Last year, amid demand for private jets from China’s growing number of super-rich, Gulfstream senior vice-president Scott Neal said in an interview with Bloomberg that he saw “exciting growth ahead in the China market”, despite China’s economy reporting the
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on record on Monday.
General Dynamics, Gulfstream and Oshkosh did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

On Monday, China’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang repeated that the arms sale had undermined China’s sovereignty and national security, and said that China would cut ties with the US firms involved in selling arms to Taiwan.

“China's government and Chinese companies will not cooperate or have commercial contacts with these US companies,” he said. “I cannot reveal the details at the moment. But believe this: Chinese people always stress standing by their word.”

The Commerce Ministry announced in May it would publish a blacklist of “unreliable” businesses or individuals deemed to have violated market rules or taken “discriminatory measures” after the US government blacklisted Chinese telecoms giant Huawei Technologies. However, it has yet to publish the list.

The row over arms sales comes as tensions between the US and China are at their highest point for decades. The world’s two biggest economies are engaged in a bitter,
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that has sent shock waves through global markets.
As the trade war has unfolded, meanwhile, the use of private WeChat accounts to disseminate Chinese government viewpoints has become more common.

Along with the Yuyuan Tantian account – a play on the Chinese name for a park located near the old CCTV headquarters in Beijing – on which the US companies were originally named, private accounts
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, affiliated with state newspaper Economic Daily, have been used to leak information about US-China trade talks. China watchers have been using these accounts as windows into the country’s highly opaque political system.
 

Jura

General
in case you didn't know
US Warship Sails Through Taiwan Strait amid China Tensions
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Taiwan said Thursday the
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is free to sail through its strait after an American warship did so soon after Beijing warned against foreign interference in its relationship with the island.

The USS Antietam sailed northward through the Taiwan Strait, said a statement from Taiwan's Defense Ministry. Taiwan's joint intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance task force said nothing "unusual" took place during its journey, the statement said.

Cmdr. Clay Doss, a spokesman for the U.S. Navy's 7th Fleet, said the Antietam conducted a routine Taiwan Strait transit Wednesday to Thursday "in accordance with international law." The Antietam is a guided missile cruiser.

The transit "demonstrates the U.S. commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific," Doss said. "The U.S. Navy will continue to fly, sail and operate anywhere international law allows."

China said it paid close attention to the passage and has expressed its concerns to the U.S.

"The Taiwan issue is the most important and sensitive issue in China-U.S. relations," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said at a regular briefing Thursday. China urges the U.S. to "properly handle Taiwan-related issues with caution," she said.

On Wednesday, China warned in a national defense white paper that it could use force against anyone who intervenes in its efforts to reunify Taiwan. The ruling Communist Party considers Taiwan part of China, though the democratically governed island split from the mainland amid civil war in 1949.

"If anyone dares to separate Taiwan from China, the Chinese army will certainly fight, resolutely defending the country's sovereign unity and territorial integrity," Defense Ministry spokesman Wu Qian said Wednesday during a briefing on the white paper.

The U.S. has repeatedly raised Beijing's ire by selling arms to Taiwan. While the U.S. does not have formal diplomatic ties with the island, U.S. law requires that it provide Taiwan with sufficient defense equipment and services for self-defense.
 

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