It would interesting to see the exact same graph but instead of negative or positive toward China to be about the perception of the US vs China.
Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and Global South strategic cooperation
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It would interesting to see the exact same graph but instead of negative or positive toward China to be about the perception of the US vs China.
New Zealand is one of the 5 eyes so it is expected that it would ally with the US. China should try to maintain a friendly relationship with New Zealand as long as possible but eventually things would deteriorate. As for Philippines, China doesn't trust Philippines to begin with. Even during Durtete administration, no major investment has materialized. In comparison, at that same period Indonesia, Cambodia, and even Vietnam have received major investment from China. So it can be said that China doesn't think Philippines can be won over.
As for South Korea, South Korean public opinion of China has been declined ever since early 00s. A rise in South Korean nationalism and economy has emboldened it to seek territory ambition by distorting facts and history. South Korean government has been pragmatic to the extent that it tried not to antagonize China too much but at the same time encouraged negative perception towards China among public. Most of the older South Koreans that I know of are much more pragmatic but younger generation has seemed to lose that quality. South Korean youngsters are actually more active than Japanese youngster in voicing support of Hong Kong rioters. I think too much brainwashing has distorted critical thinking skills of youngsters.
As for South Korea, South Korean public opinion of China has been declined ever since early 00s. A rise in South Korean nationalism and economy has emboldened it to seek territory ambition by distorting facts and history. South Korean government has been pragmatic to the extent that it tried not to antagonize China too much but at the same time encouraged negative perception towards China among public. Most of the older South Koreans that I know of are much more pragmatic but younger generation has seemed to lose that quality. South Korean youngsters are actually more active than Japanese youngster in voicing support of Hong Kong rioters. I think too much brainwashing has distorted critical thinking skills of youngsters.
S.Korea is also part of the American Empire.
Japan, S.Korea, Philippines, New Zealand, Australia are all imperial territory of the American Empire
I wouldn't expect any on the above-mentioned countries to become more positively-aligned to China in the future
It doesn't really matter. Few expects these countries to be pro-China. China only needs them to be more pragmatic and looking out more often for their own economic and political interests. Even during the height of Cold War, many European and Japanese companies have secretly done many business deals with SU with government's blessing.
China should strive for good relationship with every country. The fact that you can have a leader like Duterte should tell you not all is lost there. There is no fundamental reason why China & Philippines should have a bad relationship. That's different from Japan & SK where China is actively destroying their local industries and Australia where America has controlled their press/military for decades
Its just in the past few years that the US has really fully geared up to take on China. There wasn't enough time to pass this strategic message to the whole American Empire network. However, behold, after the new message had passed through, everyone is following their marching orders.
Australia, Europe (slowly). Even the supposed S.Korea - Japan huge historical grievances went away like a fart in the wind when the US got serious about China.
And even then, even if we assume that Philippines is not a lost cause, that China itself didn't invest a single cent during Duterte says it all. Xi and the rest of Chinese leaders have got Philippines' number. Just imagine, China is more willing to invest in warzones in Africa half a world away, than in Philippines itself which is next to it. This says everything I need to know about Philippines
I'm not sure we should take "surveys" at face value in the first place.
1) How do we know that the author used statistically significant numbers ?
(If I interviewed 4 people, I could easily say that 3 is a majority and not be lying)
2) When presented with a simplistic bar chart, how do we know how the author defined "negative", "neutral" or "positive" ?
(A : Do you like Chinese food ?
B: No.
A : He most definately hates China. Put the answer as "very negative")
3) Do we know that he isn't lying about his numbers ?
4) Do we know he doesn't have an agenda ?
5) Do we know he isn't working for an anti-China think tank ?
While I am certainly not implying that he is lying, I don't want to necessarily rely on his statistics for judgement unless I have examined all his methods for myself (and I am definitely not free enough to do that).
Statistics are one of the best way to lie to people because they suggest credibility and evidence while hiding the author's interests.
Keep in mind that it it is always in the interest of anti China elements to make China look "isolated".
1) How do we know that the author used statistically significant numbers ?
(If I interviewed 4 people, I could easily say that 3 is a majority and not be lying)
2) When presented with a simplistic bar chart, how do we know how the author defined "negative", "neutral" or "positive" ?
(A : Do you like Chinese food ?
B: No.
A : He most definately hates China. Put the answer as "very negative")
3) Do we know that he isn't lying about his numbers ?
4) Do we know he doesn't have an agenda ?
5) Do we know he isn't working for an anti-China think tank ?
While I am certainly not implying that he is lying, I don't want to necessarily rely on his statistics for judgement unless I have examined all his methods for myself (and I am definitely not free enough to do that).
Statistics are one of the best way to lie to people because they suggest credibility and evidence while hiding the author's interests.
Keep in mind that it it is always in the interest of anti China elements to make China look "isolated".
It's over for Russian diplomatic solo without china. Russia is now fully relies on china from now on and can't cause problems by inviting future hostile countries in to SCO.
I don't know why Saudis hasn't reconcile with Syria yet.
its a matter of time imo, if nothing else, there is some opportunities in syria in reconstruction.