Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and Global South strategic cooperation

Andy1974

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GDI is about having the stomach full and well fed.

GSI is about having strong muscles and safety

GCI (civilisation) is about controlling the mind with ideas and thinking similar to you

What's the final piece, then? The heart. Something to make someone love you from within, to make someone throw himself to the frontlines without having being promised anything in return. I assume something like GCI (Global Cultural Initiative) would fit here.


Control of the world, and China's rise and subsequent acceptance from the world will rest upon those Global X Initiative pillars
GCI covers all cultures, it’s not about controlling minds but opening them.
 

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Just a side thought but China needs to impove relations with Turkey. They are the only peace of the puzzle left after Iran-Saudi deal. I can't believe even Saudi Arabia are closer to China now than Turkey. To be honest I constantly read geopolitical news and there are 10 times more cooperation in various fields going on between China and Saudi Arabia, then China and Turkey in my opinion. Then there is the fact that Turkey was the only Muslim country that defies China over Xinjiang.
It's Russia that needs turkey, not china. You will have even better relations with many countries around turkey if you are hostile to turkey.
 

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https://www.rfi.fr/cn/亚洲/20230321-习近平邀请中亚国家领导人参加首届-中国-中亚-峰会
Alright, so China has invited the 5 Central Asia nation leaders to visit China in May for the 1st "China-Central Asia Summit". Feels very much like China-GCC summit.
 

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https://www.rfi.fr/cn/亚洲/20230321-习近平邀请中亚国家领导人参加首届-中国-中亚-峰会
Alright, so China has invited the 5 Central Asia nation leaders to visit China in May for the 1st "China-Central Asia Summit". Feels very much like China-GCC summit.
Afaik the invitation was made while Xi was in Russia

I am also seeing rumours that the invitations have been accepted, not that they would fail of course, they are just a diplomatic formality, the real work has already been done in the back scenes beforehand
 

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Afaik the invitation was made while Xi was in Russia

I am also seeing rumours that the invitations have been accepted, not that they would fail of course, they are just a diplomatic formality, the real work has already been done in the back scenes beforehand
Well, I don't see how little Central Asian countries can say no from China's request for a visit.
 

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Another good post from HWbeforeHR on the strategic implication of Russia/Ukraine conflict on China's influence around the world
第一,欧美金融信用受到重创,香港收到意外礼包。由于之前几年的欧美日为了拯救经济大量滥发纸币已经导致了较大的通胀基础。俄乌战争欧洲能源价格飞涨导致整个欧洲通胀更加恶化,而抢购美国能源等也抬高了全球天然气等价格,最终去年的通胀达到几十年高度。欧美不得不加息,且快速加息。但是加息导致银行的资产结构难以支持,银行开始破产。
另一个是欧美包括所谓中立国瑞士冻结乃至抢夺俄罗斯和其公民的财产,欧美信用一夜崩塌。而随着欧美、特别瑞士信用崩塌,不少资金开始流入香港,这将弥补了黑暴时期流走的。
Causing inflation which caused central banks to raise interest rates and banks to collapse. As a result of this, money is money to HK, when they used to go to Europe. Asians no longer view Swiss banks as safe haven
第二,人民币国际化获得最大助力。俄罗斯助力人民币国际化,这是中国第二个意外之获。俄罗斯官宣在亚非拉之间交易将使用人民币结算交易。亚非拉国家通常购买俄罗斯的能源、粮食、军火、化肥等。人民币作为非西方货币最靠谱的,被俄罗斯选择作为新贸易货币顺理成章,因为俄罗斯对亚非拉是顺差,收人民币才是合理。
特别是之前虽然警惕swift系统,但是无法去掉,毕竟有惯性;现在俄罗斯打头阵不一样,不用非西方货币和去swift就无法开展贸易,自然百般努力了。其实如果西方不下杀手,建设第二个交易系统是很难的,现在路不通而贸易又需要天然就通了。
类似美国人打压中国半导体,导致中国半导体自主可控技术快速发展一样。打压俄罗斯和伊朗swift导致搞人民币和人民币结算系统成为必然。
obviously, it has helped RMB internationalization a lot and it encourages global south to go without SWIFT or USD
第三,俄罗斯经济和中国互补战略终于成为定局,我们获得可靠的能源和日用品市场,俄罗斯获得能源和农产品等初级产品巨大市场。
俄罗斯过去对西方有幻想,没有强力融入中国经济体系,现在发现中国经济体系完全可以支持他们供应,乃至他们全部能源出口到中国,中国市场理论上都可以容纳。这是两个天然的互补经济伙伴,终于水到渠成了。历史上各种担忧和疑难问题在新形势下都不是问题,自然就更上一层楼了。
China and Russia are now economically integrated very well. Russia no longer holds the illusion that Europe will work with them. They will find that China can provide them everything they need
第四,亚非拉国家更加紧密的加强中国与联系,因为中国不压迫他们站队,却给他们技术供应和购买初级产品。比如巴西、中东都大力赞扬中国调和的努力。他们也看到一个温和的强国是如何礼待他们,人心都是肉长的,对比起来西方哪种一个蕞尔小国就能评头论足的嘴脸,中国真是真正的楷模。

这些收获是我们多年做好事的报酬,这就是在国际社会行善积德的福报吧。这次加速跑最终将构建以中国为中心的新国际贸易体系,并形成金融体系。
Other global south will see that Chin air willing to provide them technology and buy their products. Brazil and Middle East are all really happy to work with China.

Long term, it's hard for me to see Western countries or Japan/Korea have good relationship with China. China's rise generally has led to their deindustrialization and long term becoming less wealthy. Whereas China will always be more likely to have better relationship with countries that were denied access to advanced technologies before and have been treated as "3rd world".
 

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relationship restored between Saudis and Syrians.

Remember, this got cut off after the color revolution and the subsequent proxy war there between various factions, but looks like Assad has things more or less under control now. Saudis willing to re-establish ties with Assad indicates it no longer cares what America thinks. Again, this is China/Russia power at work.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Is this will be the things that holds Iran and Saudis together.

If Iran and Azerbaijan go to war over Armenia, would Turkey wage hostilities against Iran? This is considering that Turkey and Azerbaijan are firm allies, with the ex-president of Azerbaijan Heydar Aliyev even famously quoting Ankara-Baku relations as "one nation, two states" due to both countries being Turkic.

Then there is also the Isreali factor - While both Riyadh and Tehran have no diplomatic relations with Tel Aviv, Ankara does.
 

FriedButter

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Then there is also the Isreali factor - While both Riyadh and Tehran have no diplomatic relations with Tel Aviv, Ankara does.

Any specific reason why they need Ankara for indirect diplomatic relations with Israel? They could ask China, Russia, or really any other 3rd party other then Turkey.
 
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