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Zichan

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This article might explain the lack of targetting pods and PGM's in the VKS. Russia has almost a complete lack of ability to produce micro electronics. The extent that Russian weapons are reliant on foreign electronic components is much larger than previously thought. Mindful of the fact that the source for this is Ukraine and NATO countries you do need to take some of the things said in the article with a pinch of salt. But the truth may not be that far off.

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This seems to be more than just a manufacturing problem and is indicative of a design problem. I’ve heard rumors that Russia has a manufacturing line for a 180nm equivalent process ~ year 2000 state-of-the-art.

As for salvaging appliances, Western automakers have been doing the same lately due to the widespread chip shortage.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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This seems to be more than just a manufacturing problem and is indicative of a design problem. I’ve heard rumors that Russia has a manufacturing line for a 180nm equivalent process ~ year 2000 state-of-the-art.

As for salvaging appliances, Western automakers have been doing the same lately due to the widespread chip shortage.
Russia has a full 90 - 65 nm fab.

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You should check the semiconductor thread and learn about the industry. We have experts in there including a PhD with 10+ years of experience who writes for major financial publications about semiconductor.
 

pmc

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This article might explain the lack of targetting pods and PGM's in the VKS. Russia has almost a complete lack of ability to produce micro electronics. The extent that Russian weapons are reliant on foreign electronic components is much larger than previously thought. Mindful of the fact that the source for this is Ukraine and NATO countries you do need to take some of the things said in the article with a pinch of salt. But the truth may not be that far off.

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Most of things were purchased in bulk long time ago. unless there is dates on chips from post 2014 period. I will not make any conclusion from it. It's wistfully thinking they going run out. They already exported pods with MIG29 to Egypt
 

Zichan

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Just 90nm fab. The 65nm is still in "working progress".
Do you know who their wafer equipment manufacturing suppliers?

If these are Western companies then they might soon run into a lack of spare parts and input materials like wafers, photoresists, etching chemicals, etc.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Do you know who their wafer equipment manufacturing suppliers?

If these are Western companies then they might soon run into a lack of spare parts and input materials like wafers, photoresists, etching chemicals, etc.
From what I heard, they're indeed under sanctions both generally and specifically, since 2014 and ramped up in 2022.

Understandably they hold supplier information extremely tight but in general from my understanding, Russian fabs use processes not used commercially to squeeze as much performance as possible out of older equipment. Example: to go from 90 nm to 28-65 nm you typically use immersion ArF instead of dry ArF. But some fabs instead do double patterning (litho etch litho etch) to achieve that with dry ArF.

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As for where they're figuring out how to do this? There's only 1 country in the world that's doing 5 nm GAA research with 1998 AMAT Producer 200 mm...

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pmc

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Do you know who their wafer equipment manufacturing suppliers?

If these are Western companies then they might soon run into a lack of spare parts and input materials like wafers, photoresists, etching chemicals, etc.
Russia will not enter this business of semiconductors unless it has surety it can manage 100% self development. they are branching out to every field.
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gelgoog

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Russia has two 180nm-90nm fabs. One which can produce at 3000 wafers per month, and another which can produce at 15000 wafers per month. 200mm wafers. Each wafer might be able to have dozens or even hundreds of chips depending on die area.

Well at least in theory since the largest fab is supposedly mostly producing chips for smartcards at like 250nm.

The smaller fab has produced several 90nm chip designs including the Elbrus-2SM that I mentioned. Even 3000 wafers per month is more than enough to produce all the logic chips they might need for the military.
 
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