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KampfAlwin

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I assumed both observers are representing China but now that's not as clear. There's no reason for there to be a tiger and a panda to symbolise Chinese observers. The panda obviously represents China but only the figure wearing the panda. The tiger is labeled with 王 so might be used to represent the US. I didn't make that connection before because I associated the Tiger with either China or India. India is no 王 but the US would have been more appropriately represented with an eagle.

You are right though. It isn't denigrating Russia at all. I thought it was earlier because of the bear's expression and the sniggering from the figure wearing the tiger. Also the fact they're dressed far better to indicate superior position?
I’m pretty sure those 2 figures represent both SAC(Siberian tiger) and CAC(Panda)
 

siegecrossbow

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I assumed both observers are representing China but now that's not as clear. There's no reason for there to be a tiger and a panda to symbolise Chinese observers. The panda obviously represents China but only the figure wearing the panda. The tiger is labeled with 王 so might be used to represent the US. I didn't make that connection before because I associated the Tiger with either China or India. India is no 王 but the US would have been more appropriately represented with an eagle.

You are right though. It isn't denigrating Russia at all. I thought it was earlier because of the bear's expression and the sniggering from the figure wearing the tiger. Also the fact they're dressed far better to indicate superior position?

Tiger is Shenyang (SAC) and the Panda is Chengdu (CAC).
 

stannislas

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finally
 

ougoah

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You can put Tempest and FCAS there and J-20 and F-22. All 5th gen fighters tend towards a certain frontal profile. It's just convergent engineering based on stealth shaping principles. When it's China related, they'll cry copy... then ten plus years later the rest of the duds come with their copies that are still only in ppt format (AMCA and FCAS) and their fanboys are busy telling you why it's not a copy.

Having said that, Checkmate probably features a different intake design than the others (DSI or raptor like). It's also going to be the first one with no horizontal stabilisers.
 
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